I did have a situation last year where we'd installed some 15700 fixtures in a fountain that were suffering from water intrusion. I called my distributor who talked to the Kichler rep about it as replacement was going to require dis-assembly of the fountain at a cost of about $1500. The Kichler rep told him to have me replace all the current fixtures with 15711SS (as warranty replacements for the 15700's) and that he'd issue me a $1500 credit to cover the cost of the fountain work. We didn't ask for it, they offered. Like I said, I'm rethinking my commitment to integrated fixtures but...they did go above and beyond what they promised in their warranty for me so I do have some loyalty to them because of that. I don't know that there are many others that would have done the same.