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Lesco HPS vs. Perma Green vs. z-spray

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by mflaniga, May 12, 2004.

  1. mflaniga

    mflaniga LawnSite Member
    Messages: 8

    Hello All:

    We are currently evaluating purchasing a ride on fertilizer spreader. We primarily apply granular so spray options seem less important right now. At first the Perma Green seemed like the best answer since it seems to have the largest market share and also a lot of versitility. But upon further research, a lot on this web site, it seems that not everyone is happy with both the quality and customer service of PermaGreen. On the other hand the z-spray apprears to have only happy customers, and given my druthers I would order one today. Unfortunately it is 2-1/2 times the price of the Lesco HPS which is much more afforadable at only $2700.

    We figure total machine run time for the season will be about 200 - 300 hours. The majority of the properties are residential and between 1/4 and 1/2 an acre. Since I am doing the applying the primary benefit I am looking for is not having to push that spreader especially for the larger properties. The HPS seems like a good compromise since it does what we want but is the most affordable. But we have to consider the longevity, versitility and customer service as well. Any thoughts from anyone would be greatly appreciated!

  2. James Cormier

    James Cormier LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Ma
    Messages: 1,217

    Ive looked at the HPS, Heres what I dont like

    1. not strong enough, been hearing alot of guys with broken axles and welds snapping

    2. cable opens and shuts spreader, over time this will cause problems with cable streching and becoming loose, that means while your spreading and opening and closing at each pass, you may not be applying the same amount of product with each pass, ( I think this is a big down fall to the PG centri )

    3. Most lesco centers dont have service, so when theres a problem it needs to be shipped somewhere to get fixed.

    4. No spray system, so how much time you really gonna save, thats if weed control is important to you.

    Now the PG, well you can read many things about that machine, Yes there are guys that love it, and some that dont. I still use my ultra daily, and centri every once in a while. Ive spent 10k with Pg in the past 4years

    My next machine will be the zspray, or......maybe Ill morph the HPS's drive system with the PG ultra spreader and the PG centri's spray system, then maybe that would be the perfect machine
  3. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,969

    The Ric-O-Green is a non grass cutting 1993 Walker 20 hp with a Lesco truckster and a northern ATV boom sprayer. Works great and I am well satisfied with it. Up grades will be a spyker's 220 spreader to handle organic material like very fine compost.

    Now the only problem is I must use a trailer. I would like to have something smaller that would fit on the back of my spray truck. Now the electric Spreader has a constant speed broad cast wheel and by hooking up a rheostat you can adjust the throw width. I only stay with Truckster because of the Electric broadcast wheel.

    Now after many years of spraying Fertilizer I have come to the conclusion that granules are a better way to go. However Spray has it's place also. Therefore each year I am more and more into granules, However I will never be able to do all granules with present chemicals.
  4. Pilgrims' Pride

    Pilgrims' Pride LawnSite Senior Member
    from MA.
    Messages: 481

    I have an HPS.
    A weld broke where the axle attaches to the wheels.
    Lesco fixed it right away.
    When I have time I'll take it to my own machine shop to "beef it up" a bit.
    Other than that, I'm very happy with the machine.
    It is highly manueverable and gos where my PG wouldnt dare.
    If spraying is not important, Go with the HPS.
  5. wrestlingcoach

    wrestlingcoach LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 251

  6. cemars

    cemars LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 387

    I can't say enough good things about the Z-Spray. It is an insult to the Z-spray to compare it to the Lesco or Perma green. 8 mph ground speed, adjustable impeller speed, 200 lb hopper, zero turn radius, and the ability to spray even if you don't do much. I also own 2 PG's and spent 6 years working at lesco and would not consider anything with the Lesco name until it has 2-3 years of a proven track record. Spend the extra money up front and reap the rewards for years to come.
  7. mflaniga

    mflaniga LawnSite Member
    Messages: 8


    I totally agree. I don't think they are comparable. The z-spray is obviously a far superior machine and I would love to buy one tomorrow. But given the capital constraints and the fact that unlike a mower this piece of equipment is going to be used for perhaps 20 to 30 days during the year I am thinking that maybe I should start with something a little less expensive. By no means do I think these three machines are equals.
  8. Tscape

    Tscape LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,370

    Get the Z-spray Junior with the 200lb hopper upgrade. Also, the fact that the Z's have a hydraulic motor for the impeller make them more reliable.
  9. ant

    ant LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,466

    how do you guys transport the z-spray?
    the perm-a green has a nice rack that fits in the reciever hitch.
  10. Green Pastures

    Green Pastures LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,457

    Where can I see pics of this Z-Spray, get printed information, see it on a website?


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