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Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by GREENDRAGON, Nov 29, 2007.
sure I will go and get it n/p
FYI I was wrong its 18-13-22 got it backwards
9% or less chlorine
Muriate of Potash SP K20
Also has Boron, Copper and such trace.
i get my 34 3 7 for about 13.70 per bag right now, i believe all mineral, no need for scu this late and cold as it will not leach or get used too fast. if lesco fert went up that much and the rest follow, wea re all screwed and no one will want to pay for our service
10% scu ???
i'll admit i'm in fla. and that's not much here
ammonical over urea is cheaper
muriate potash (mop)is cheaper than SOP
again here in fla
you look at mg and mn in minors
i not trying to pick on you or insult you
it's just you get what you pay for
discount distributors very rarely last for long
all they do is drive the market down and give false hope to individuals trying to price their services
you don't have to look hard to see raw materials are going up
lesco today maybe your supplier next week or the 1st of jan
urea cost 200.00 a ton in 04 it's expected to reach 650.00 in 08
i have also thought about switching my cust. to an ALTERNATIVE blend to reduce cost...
i can sell them 24-2-11 for 16.00 a bag
or another 24-2-11 for 14.00 a bag
but their not the same product
i hate rate increases i've been call cust and telling them it's not good!!
they tell me that they will come in to talk to me i tell them i'll be the one whose butt looks like chewed up jerky.
i was in in the game for over 20 yrs it hurts to see these guys and tell them prices sre going up.
this seems to be the only business that cost of materials out paces the charge for service... and if you raise your $ too much they just cancel their service
FYI I am buying from a supplier that has been in business for over 100 years and they have 100s of branches across this part of the US. And liquid sprays they are more expensive. Also their fertilizer actually seems to work better then lesco's my customers even have noticed the difference. Many people in my area use the same supplier as I. Believe it or not many of them find it strange if you use another.
Also the SC is low but we don't have high temps now and its low enough N.
I don't even use urea and trust me I don't use cheap products!
I use 100% Lesco products (best you can buy in my opinion) which are well balanced fertilizers! I use 32-3-8 (25%SCU) and 32-5-7 (50% SCU). A product with 18% N and only 10%SCU would very rarely fit anywhere in my lineup. Do you use that as your "maintenance" fert or just on special situations?
All I was trying to point out is that if you apply 1# using your "cheaper source" of N your cost/K is about 30%.
Like someone said earlier....it is your cost/1000 you should be looking at and not the cost/bag!
If you don't mind me asking...who are you using? Is it a co-op or Landmark?
actually I use the 32-3-8 also from Lesco for my normal conditions. I only bought 10 bags of the landmark bags for the lawns that called for it.
You got it Southwest Landmark
I simply replied that based on your post, you were saving money between the products and then you listed the 13-18-22 analysis. I pointed out that more bags would be needed (based on the analysis, to provide 1# of N per 1,000 sq.ft. I never once stated that you ripped people off. By the way, your 13-18-22 analysis sounded more like a starter fertilizer than a regular fertilizer. I'm glad that it actually turned out to be an 18-13-22 instead. However, that's a lot of P to be applying on a regular basis and because P doesn't move through the soil, you're taking a chance at having an overabundance of it. Phosphorus levels in my neck of the woods are all through the roof and that's why the majority of the companies out this way use products that are very low in P.
You go on to state that you customize all of your lawn programs and apply what each lawn needs. With that being said, you must do extensive soil tests for each and every lawn and offer 100's of different programs? That seems highly unlikely and would seem like a perfect way of "over-analyzing" something to the point where it wouldn't even be profitable.
By the way, I don't use any 46-0-0.