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Lighting Install

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by TN Property Services, May 5, 2007.

  1. TN Property Services

    TN Property Services LawnSite Member
    Messages: 71

    Don't be too harsh:
    I have a customer that is wanting lighting installed to outline his driveway and walks. I want to do a top quality job for him with top quality materials that will provide him with years of worry free service. I have never installed a landscape lighting system. I know the stuff @ Home Depot or Lowes is not as good as some of the other systems on the market, but where is a good supplier as I really am not sure of where to start looking. Any supplier/manufacturer websites would be great so I can do some research and decide if I should try and tackle this or sub it out.

    Not too proud to admit when I am over my head or when to say "I don't know enough about what I am doing to pull the plug on it."
  2. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,180

    James. Consider sub contracting the job and still making a profit on it. If you do not plan to continue to do lighting and do not currently have the abilities to design and install a high performance system properly then I would highly reccomend finding someone who does. Just like I do with irrigation. Past job I still made 20% on the sprinklers.

    I can hit the knoxville area as we are up that way quite often. Eden lights is also around nashville and on this site and im sure could either do it or reffer you to someone a bit closer. If your in over your head on this one learn from the experience of working with someone who knows whats what. Its not safe to be installing high perf lighhting with out the knowledge.

    Feel free to email me thru my website below if I can answer any questions.

    As for websites try floridaoutdoorlighting.com or John deere landscapes or your local irrigation house.

    Still stands that I would reccomend having a specialist come in then you take the maint contract on the lighting system. Not only will you get a proper install but also possibly a more artistic design.

    God Bless
  3. TN Property Services

    TN Property Services LawnSite Member
    Messages: 71

    Thanks Pro-Scapes
    Not in over my head, preventing the situation through information and research. Haven't even started the project, he has just told me that is one of the things he wants to accomplish this summer. Thanks for the ideas and info.
  4. Dreams To Designs

    Dreams To Designs LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,406

    What Billy has said is the best advice. Sub out the first job and then see if it is something you want to invest time and money for tools and equipment in. Good lighting can make a job, bad lighting can ruin a landscape and your reputation. Check with some of the major manufacturers and find out if they have suppliers or representatives in your area.

    A one day seminar does not make you a lighting professional, but they may offer onsite assistance as well as more importantly, design assistance. Good lighting design is the key to a quality job.

    Try Cast, Kichler, Focus, Unique, Vista, Hadco and there are more. These will be quality products and should have some type of support in your area, or be able to refer you to experienced installers.

    Make sure your client is willing to spend the money for quality materials and installation. A typical system will run between $175 to $300 per fixture including installation depending on product used.

  5. Turf Troll

    Turf Troll LawnSite Member
    Messages: 227

    TN Property Services,

    Is there a John Deere Landscape near you? They hold different seminars in the winter, they can connect you with manufactures and they have people to help contractors. Vista might have a rep near you, they will come out to a job and help or talk with you before hand.
  6. Lite4

    Lite4 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,173

    TN property services:

    Before tackling this job please take some time and educate yourself on some basics. Low voltage electricity is still electricity. You still have to follow a lot of the same principles as line voltage. Please understand many landscapers in my area claim that they are (Lighting installers). However it is this same group that has had no more education on proper lighting techniques than your typical home depot shopper. this has damaged the reputation of low voltage systems. People around here are used to seeing dim ineffective lighting as well as dealing premature burnout due to improper voltage setting. It is sometimes a struggle to get people to understand and realize how effective a well designed and properly installed system can enhance their property beyond their expectations. I agree you should pobably sub this job out and take a slice of the profit, nothing wrong in that. However should you decide to invest the time in learning about LV systems I think you will find it very rewarding and you will be glad you learned how to do it right.

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