I am working on a incentive based pay system. I have the $$ part pretty much worked out. What I need now is other motivators. I already provide lunch daily , benefits and a 4-day work week. Michael Gerber in his E Myth books talks about work being a game and the need to keep the game fresh and new to keep employees engaged. That's what I am looking for. I find when I ask the guys to come up with their own ideas I don't get much response. If I give them options they are not shy about letting me know what they want.