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longest retain wall in the world

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by italianstallion69, Jun 24, 2013.

  1. italianstallion69

    italianstallion69 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 108

    or longest ive done

    2 tiers 215 feet per tier 200' straight 15' 45degree angle at end

    approx 3.5' average height

    what are you guys charging per SFF? or LF? in the northeast

    i dont own the footer, concrete guys will form/pour that. I gotta dig it tho.

    will be using versa lok tumbled block (no worry of chipping it)

    i got it for 39.80 a SFF. but last wall i did i got it at 67.5.

    I hate retaining walls.
  2. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,790

    What do you charge per LF per caps? And what are you paying for block
  3. italianstallion69

    italianstallion69 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 108

    rj you do amazing work! saw your website. your work is 100%. makes me look bad.

    but my clients arent paying for the taj mahal.

    i got supplier quote on tumbled block @ 4' height for 24g, but ill step it to get it down to 3.5' average height.

    i dont price caps seperately, as im not sure how much i pay per cap. trying to keep materials under 1/3 % so less than 22g with stone backfill etc.
  4. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,790

    Thanks man, I appreciate it. I know commercial work is about speed, i couldnt compete on a few that i priced, sticking to upper middle residential.

    I always add caps in as a separate item since there more cap work on longer walls vs short tall walls plus the glue and time ain't cheap. Curves take forever etc.

    Where's the job at?
    that's a good ratio to keep.
  5. italianstallion69

    italianstallion69 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 108

    job is in western pa.

    we only did one curve. it turned out OK but i would never get my guys a curvy job i doubt they can do it!

    straight and 45-90 degree bends.thats all we do.

    how are you moving pallets of block? with forks on a skid steer?

    if you use a telehandler/lull/shootingboom forklift, it is much faster. u can raise the pallet til youre guys are basically sliding blocks onto the wall. I always say move the forklift dont carry blocks. I even put in my bids the quote is invalid if we cannot have a telehandler on site. $1200 a week from sunbelt. I get a genie 44? 6K 40' boom.

    If i can learn how to run one, anyone can

    now residential sites may not have enough space for a 22,000# forklift to swing around. but the time savings are immense. less tiring on your guys.

    a bobcat just doesnt get close enough/extend/ cant get over curbs to get within 1" of the wall with confidence, in my opinion.
  6. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,790

    I do it all with the skid. I've been running it since I'm 9 so i do some stuff others wont. Definitely no telehandlers around here. Half the jobs are done with a wheelbarrow through a 4' gate
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  7. Impact-Vector

    Impact-Vector LawnSite Member
    Messages: 150

    Weeks ago I would read these posts and get wonder about why you guys spend so much on equipment.

    Today I picked up a different set of laborers, my usual didn't show, all I can say is they cost me more in rentals than I paid them and we didn't hit the target. Very dissapointing :( I was at the point of being willing to spend any amount to get rid of them
  8. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,790

    Laborers break down way more often than machines. And you own a machine and can work it day or night
  9. italianstallion69

    italianstallion69 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 108


    what are your thoughts on a backhoe to dig walls?

    like a john deere 110 size 12-16000 lb?

    i found a used 1000 hr cat 303 for 25g but an excavator is so much a one trick pony, dig trees or dig walls (and i dont do many walls)

    Just dont know how manueverable a backhoe is for wall digging/tree planting versus a mini cuz I have never rented a backhoe.
  10. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,790

    Never ran one either but I'm sure on a big site like yours it would
    Be good. You could put an auger on it for plantings too and use the loader to clean up
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