I have heard a hundred times in Lawnsite that companies are tired of being low-balled! Here is the dictionary definition: low-ball or low·ball (lbôl) tr.v. Slang low-·balled, low-·bal·ling, low-·balls To underestimate or understate (a cost) deliberately: He often took illegal cash payments from developers in return for... low-balling the cost of construction and renovation work (Boston Globe). Now................ People state a new company, a bunch of kids, a small company, teenagers gave a lowball price. Maybe we should all look at what we have done in the past before we start pointing fingers.... what did you do when you were a new company, probably like the rest of us and gave cheaper prices to get business..... most people believe some money is better than no money.....as we continue to grow and become more estabilished we can then charge a premium for our services.... I have a small company, just me, the only employee, no payroll taxes, work comp, FICA, nada!!!! I can charge 30% less than you and we will net the same anount. (assuming you are operating ligeally and have a staff) the way I see it, if I sit behind a desk, make calls and send out my crews everyday, I will have to have 3 crews to make what I make solo....... I dont find out what the competition charges in town and then beat it by 10%.... if I did that I would go crazy....... instead, I charge what I can be satisfied making.....my minimum is $30.00 per hour....(man hour)...I make 45,000 (net) a year and dont work to hard....not so many stresses.......and charge a cheaper price....... you do the math! A lot of other LCO's may say I low ball them, I do.... but then again there are companies that low ball me.....I dont get pissed...just realize that company can do it cheaper or will be out of business in a month! I bet you keep your customers happy, they will stay...... you get lazy, greedy, grouchy, rude, unprofessional, or perform lackluster work.... there looking for someone else (hopefully me). If someone wants to get in this business, they can do it with a 21" push mower and a ryobi trimmer and edger from home depot, and I am willing to help them any way I can.......and you should be too.... Dont be a whiner!!! be a hard workinh inspiration to others .... I am probably going to be banned from this site, but thats my opinion!