Looking at a CAT 226B...

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by jray3369, Feb 27, 2006.

  1. jray3369

    jray3369 LawnSite Member
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    Well like the title says. I have a demo on the 1st of March. Any one have anything to say?

    Currently we have a case 60xt and it has been in the shop 13 times now. It has um what 200hrs on it. We made all our money this year there rentals.

    We need something that is for moving gravel and rough grade on yards and driveways. Need to be able to fit into the garage of new homes.

    And anyone know a base price?

    Any others to consider?

    Any problems?
  2. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
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    What problems have you had? I have a 70XT with 1500 hours and except for two hoses I have not had any problems. Did you buy it new?
  3. jray3369

    jray3369 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 58

    What are you able to deal?

    If they give you a price, try to work the price down or an attachment or what?

    What did you buy, what did you pay? In this size category 2,000lbs working load and down.

    Thank you in advance, Jordan
  4. jray3369

    jray3369 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 58

    Yeah, new

    Well.. This is just a few.

    The e brake will come on while driving in high speed. (talk about a stop):dizzy:

    The pulleys just froze up. (20*F) The dealer told us we cant keep it outside? :confused:

    The lap bar sensor is messing up, the wire is getting in the way from them messing with it

    When we shut it off, it will starve itself for fuel for 30sec to 4 min until it dies.

    There are quick access panels that vibrate like no other.

    They said the fuel injector pump may be going out? Said $5,000?

    Well that is the most recent. There sadly enough is more. We told them that this is outrageous so we got and additional 1 year warr from March 2006
  5. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,157

    I just got a price quote for a CASE 440 two speed, ride control, hyd. coupler everything except the cab enclosure. Price is 32K. This will be my 17th CASE skid steer so we have a good understanding after all these years and machines. With the internet pricing is easy, I would find a machine you like and get three different bids, bring them to your local dealer of whatever brand and tell him you want to make a deal. I would make every effort to buy local but in order to get the best price atleast on the first machine you may have to use bids from out of you area. I will price other dealers every so often to be sure that I am gettting the best deal. I have not been taken yet. The important part is realizing that it is a partnership that your entering into with the dealer and manufacturer. An example a good friend of mine had a 416C that was a POS. The guy is a die hard CAT guy (except for his CASE skid steers) CAT got him out of the machine and into another. I had a skid steer that had problems. CASE and my dealer got me out of the machine and into a new one. If I had a skid steer that had 13 trips to the shop in 200 hours I would have been into a new one on their dime (assuming I bought it new from them).
  6. jray3369

    jray3369 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 58

    So you are saying that case may be better then CAT? Its really a quality thing im looking for. We had a 40XT for a rental last time and it was nice. I like either’s controls. I prefer the CAT I think. Its been a little while. that’s why I have a demo ready We tried to get a new machine but they just gave us a longer warr. so we figured if we still have problems after this then that may be an option.

    Let me know what you think. I really don’t know many people around here that do this. We had a New Holland and traded it for the case... but it didn’t have any problems. I am not a fan of the T controls.

    Do I just go to the contact page and ask for a price? How long does it take to get a reply? I was talking to a local dealer and he won’t give me an exact price on a 226B Im just looking for a price range. I really can’t exceed 27,000. So let me know

    Thanks A lot Jordan
  7. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
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    Do I think that CASE skid steers are better than CAT? I do, but that is my opinion and others will vary. Case will be releasing their pilot controls in the third quarter, so if you like pilots that soon will be an option. I would go to some of the heavy equipment sales websites (MLS, Point 2 etc) and call on different machines. It is always best to talk to a salesman in person or atleast on the phone verse email. Tell them what your looking for and have them fax you a quote. If your not happy with you 60XT I would pressure the dealer to trade you out of it now. Although the 40-70XTs have been very good machines, the 400 series machines are very sweet. Case is currently offering extended warranty coverage 3 years 4000 hours on engine and powertrain along with low interest. Now is the time to move on one. The offers are over March 31st. Demo a 440 with two speed and ride control. Then twist your dealer for a killer deal due to pain and suffering, or threaten to go somewhere else.
  8. Squizzy246B

    Squizzy246B LawnSite Senior Member
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    I cut my teeth on pilot controls in a 99 model 226. It is a very solid and versatile machine that went through some very rough work. I was actually looking at it today and it has got 3500 hrs on it and it is still going strong. I changed a few flat tyres on it but it has never missed a beat in that time. I like the larger machines but the 226 is a gutsy performer. I doubt wether you will have a problem. The 226 is Cats biggest seller here.

    The run on thing after shut down - your not the only Case person with that problem at the moment.

    With height, just check all the specs first, Cat skids are not exactly short. I think Mustang is about the best in that regard.

    If you have never run pilot controls on a skid before it will take time to get used to it (I was bouncing all over the place at first) but its well worthwhile.
  9. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
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    You should be able to get a 226B for under $27,000K, depending what you put on it. I wish I had a new 226, I want the TURBO. Someone want to steal me a turbo from a 226B and I'll fab a manifold to fit our 216.
  10. Squizzy246B

    Squizzy246B LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 837

    Just do a Bill and jam the Mitsupillar 3044 into the 216. 80 horses in a 216...that would be wild.:laugh:

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