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Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by jtrice11, Dec 17, 2004.

  1. jtrice11

    jtrice11 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 380

    Do you guys detach all your properties in the spring or only the ones that need it?
    Also, what exactly do you include in your spring clean up efforts? Particularly if the property looks pretty clean?
  2. out4now

    out4now LawnSite Bronze Member
    from AZ
    Messages: 1,796

    At the University of Arizona Dr. Kopec said never to dethatch durring transition, wait till summmer when the grass is actively growing so it can recover better. Ever hear of spring die back? Root zone actually lessens for a few weeks in the spring making plant more suseptable to damage. At least that's what I was told in most of the classes I took.
  3. Landscare

    Landscare LawnSite Member
    Messages: 17

    Out 4 Now is 100% correct. Wait until at least June depending on how growing spurts are in your area...
  4. jtrice11

    jtrice11 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 380

    Is dethatching required? Or is it just hte ones that look like they are being choked out?
  5. work_it

    work_it LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 976

    You shouldn't dethatch unless the thatch layer is 1/2" or more. Keep in mind that when you dethatch you're also ripping up living grass roots. In most cases excess thatch is caused by compacted soil which can be corrected by aerating, balancing the soil, and proper watering practices.
  6. grassman2001

    grassman2001 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 68

    If at all possible try to aerate in the fall.
  7. jtrice11

    jtrice11 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 380

    ok cool, got it. I am just starting out and am a little worried about the detatching process and wether or not it is required on all properties. From what I have read and researched my understanding is that it is not necessary on all properties, especially if the lawn is healthy.
  8. work_it

    work_it LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 976

    Why would you even consider subjecting a healthy lawn to such a brutal process? Then ask yourself if you're prepaired to deal with all the weeds and crabgrass that will germinate after dethatching. Take into consideration that a lot of weed/crabgrass seeds are suspended in the thatch layer, and when you disturb them and expose bare soil what do you think will happen? Then ask yourself, what do you propose to do to help the unsuspecting customer fix all the problems...including the reason for the excess thatch in the first place? If you don't fix the problem it will happen again. Just something to think about before you go out and start offering dethatching as a service.
  9. Randy Scott

    Randy Scott LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,915

    First of all, do you know what and where the thatch layer actually is? Do you know the purpose of it?

    Not being smart, just wondering if you are sure what the thatch layer does and exactly where it's located. Many people are unclear of it.

    There's plenty of reading about it at any local University that you could research it and/or just a general search on-line will yield good descriptions and times when it should or shouldn't be done.
  10. bobbygedd

    bobbygedd LawnSite Fanatic
    from NJ
    Messages: 10,178

    what's his name is correct. the thatch layer can be seen by pulling cores

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