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Looking for ideas: pavement near stream?

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by PSUhardscaper, Sep 8, 2011.

  1. PSUhardscaper

    PSUhardscaper LawnSite Member
    Messages: 80

    Friends of mine recently bought a new house. They said they would like some kind of pavement or deck where their chairs are placed in the pictures below. I am posting these pictures to hopefully get opinions from those of you who have worked in an area like this. I didn't tell them there's nothing you can build, but I did stress the fact that a pavement is not conducive with an undercut bank, leaning tree, and exposed roots. Any ideas?



  2. AztlanLC

    AztlanLC LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,050

    If it were me a stamped concrete or blue stone on concrete would be my choice depending on budget
  3. eastcoastjessee

    eastcoastjessee LawnSite Member
    Messages: 64

    Maybe a deck that cantilevers from the solid ground to the edge of the tree/bank. You could do the same with concrete piers and a reinforced slab but that would be expensive.
  4. PSUhardscaper

    PSUhardscaper LawnSite Member
    Messages: 80

    do you think 4" reinforced concrete would not crack even if that tree continues to lean more and more? I really don't want to recommend something that isn't going to last.
  5. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,576

    The first concern is when this creek rises above it's banks, which it WILL.

    Next is the tree roots.

    I'm guessing they're a young couple, probably their first house? So naturally, they have all sorts of BIG plans. Best thing they can do is live in the house for a while and get a good feel for what goes in with heavy rains and/or snow melts. When little ones come along they won't want them so close to the creek. Work your magic and find them somewhere else to plop down a patio.

    Last edited: Sep 8, 2011
  6. Glenn Lawn Care

    Glenn Lawn Care LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,645

    I would do a little fire pit patio combo.
  7. SDLandscapes VT

    SDLandscapes VT LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 581

    Cantilevered deck, but DVS has good points....I would not do patio work here.
  8. robtown

    robtown LawnSite Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 224

    I would come back 15 to 20 ft back and did it out as a curved retaining wall put a couple of steps and sink a patio witha firepit. I would put in a small bulkhead along the river. I would also do a permable paver patio. If they have the money it would be a magnificent patio.
  9. Dr.NewEarth

    Dr.NewEarth LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,476

    My first thought is, would the city issue a permit for that spot? What are the restrictions?

    We wouldn't even be allowed to build a house that close to a waterway around here any-more.

    The Federal Department of Fisheries wants us to be at least 45 feet back from the bank if it's fish bearing or eventually leads to a fish bearing waterway. This can include ditches.

    What exposed the tree roots?

    On the other hand, to answer your question...I would put a short cedar deck on cement pads.
  10. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,576

    yeah Evan, put that Penn State education to work :laugh:


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