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Discussion in 'Bidding, Estimating and Pricing' started by Richard Albert J.R, May 4, 2019.
Materials is already included in 18/square
Don’t have to add them again
The blocks don’t cost anywhere near what you think they do, typically 3-4 per square
The cost is in the prep work, excavation and expertise laying them.
I’m attaching this for reference, Nicolock tends to be on the pricier side of paving stones and these are Canadian prices I believe, expect average prices in the states to be about 30 percent lower.
So if you got "hosed" then you must know how far you fell short of your revenue goal for the project, therefore you already know how much you would have liked to/should have charged. Not sure why you are asking us. Hopefully you took some good records so that your second job as a solo you don't get hosed.
PS my advice is don't listen to anyone on sq foot pricing or you may still get hosed. We completed two paving projects back to back that were same cost for the pavers but completely different installation scenarios. First job our install rate averaged 5.88 sq ft/hour, the second job averaged 2.1 sq ft/hr due to the particularities of the job. Now that will change your sq foot price dramatically.
Suit yourself. I wouldn't bid that low myself.
Come back and talk when you sell hundreds of thousands in hardscape a month, 18 a square for a simple patio is about e national average.
OP didn’t necessarily Get hosed because pricing was wrong, could have had poor production or likely didn’t figure the particulars of all the special detail like the in laid soldier course
The production on your first attempt at anything is probably not going to be very fast. The op probably didn’t get hosed as bad as he thinks since he can probably increase the production significantly on the next job. I usually chock it up to most people pay to learn and I’m getting paid to learn. I just “saved” about $1500 digging a footer myself. Now considering the time it took me I probably didn’t save any money but it’ll go way faster next time.
From his post
Assuming the issue is the high detail
Not the first time he’s done a patio
He said first solo job so maybe I assumed wrong.