Looks bleak in California

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  1. greenmonster304

    greenmonster304 LawnSite Platinum Member
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  2. Charles

    Charles Moderator Staff Member
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    We had an incipient drought in the SE that lasted 15 years. The CA drought has been going on since 2002 according to the article you posted. Droughts usually last between 10 to 20 years. So CA needs to really conserve water to make it through possibly 7 more years of drought. That is probably the worst case scenario. Desalination plants may help out soon? A costly alternative, but one that is long over due
     
  3. RussellB

    RussellB LawnSite Fanatic
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    I saw nothing in the article about building moratoriums. Do they have one in place? Also if the land has sunk 1 foot due to pumping ground water, what is going to happen if they have an earth quake? Or better yet are they going to be the cause of the earth quake?
     
  4. SoCalLandscapeMgmt

    SoCalLandscapeMgmt LawnSite Silver Member
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    The really sad thing is that a lot of people just don't get it, or they don't want to get it. We've had a few good rain storms here in the LA area over the last couple of months and I can't begin to tell you how many people I see with their sprinklers running in the rain. We've been leaving irrigation off for weeks after it has rained this year and only turning it back on minimally as needed yet I still have people calling me me when their turf starts to show the slightest sign of stress. I wonder what these people are going to do when they are told that they cannot irrigate their lawns any longer. This summer is going to be brutal. People are going to have to get with it and get over the idea of having lush green lawns.
     
  5. RhettMan

    RhettMan LawnSite Silver Member
    from Texas
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    Praise Jesus. Or nature, or whatever you like.

    Glass is half full :)

    Its so wet here lately wet cant even walk on these clay soiled lawns. You'll just sink and leave a rut that will maintain it's shape and will be rock hard if it ever drys out.

    As a result of all this rain, no one care about systems :(

    Hopefully the winds will carry this mess to CA soon.
     
  6. Mondragon Lawn Serv

    Mondragon Lawn Serv LawnSite Senior Member
    from Texas
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    Desalination plants are in the building progress. It's not a cheap way solution but it's an ootion apparently there's 6 or so plants that would only give around 30% of what's needed. They have a great mess down there and am glad we don't have the issue that bad for us. The treatment for desalination is going to cost them
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  7. Charles

    Charles Moderator Staff Member
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    I read this article yesterday. Looks like Texas is not out of the woods yet when it comes to ground water:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/13/opinion/the-southwestern-water-wars.html

    How Drought Is Producing Tensions in Texas

    By RICHARD PARKERMARCH 13, 2015
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    Credit Wesley Allsbrook


    WIMBERLEY, Tex. — “WE don’t want you here,” warned the county commissioner, pointing an accusatory finger at the drilling company executives as 600 local residents rose to their feet. “We want you to leave Hays County.”

    Normally, my small town is a placid place nestled in the Texas Hill Country, far from controversy, a peaceful hour’s drive west of Austin. Pop. 2,582, Wimberley was founded as a mill town on a creek. Today it’s part artist colony, part cowboy town known for its natural beauty and its cool, clear springs and rivers that wind through soaring cypress trees.

    But these are not normal times. The suburbs of Austin close in every year. Recently, the suburb of Buda and developers enlisted a company from faraway Houston to drain part of the Trinity Aquifer, the source of the Hill Country’s water. An old-fashioned, Western-style water war has erupted.

    Across Texas and the Southwest, the scene is repeated in the face of a triple threat: booming population, looming drought and the worsening effects of climate change.


    And it is a story that has played out before. It was in the Southwest that complex human cultures in the United States first arose. Around A.D. 800, the people called the “Ancient Ones” — the Mimbres, Mogollon, Chaco and other Native American cultures — flourished in what was then a green, if not lush, region. They channeled water into fields and built cities on the mesas and into the cliffs, fashioning societies, rituals and art.

    Then around 1200 they all disappeared. Or so the legend goes. In reality, these cultures were slowly and painfully extinguished. The rivers dried. The fields died. The cities were unsustainable as drought stretched from years to decades, becoming what scientists today call a megadrought. Parts of these cultures were absorbed by the Pueblo and Navajo people; parts were simply stamped out.

    By the time the Spanish arrived in the 16th century, so had, finally, the rain. The American, German and Polish settlers who came to Texas in the 19th century found a rich landscape, flush with water. “I must say as to what I have seen of Texas,” wrote Davy Crockett, “it is the garden spot of the world.” And so it remained, punctuated by only two long droughts.

    One, at the dawn of the 20th century, wreaked ecological havoc on the overgrazed Hill Country. The second stretched from the late 1940s to the late 1950s and is still known as the drought of record. When it released its grip, a new era of feverish dam and canal building ensued in Texas, just as it already had in much of the Southwest. A dearth of rainfall, after all, is a fact in the cycle of life here. Rains come when the equatorial current of El Niño appears, and they stay stubbornly away when its twin, La Niña, reverses the course. Those grand dams and canals seemed likely to suffice.

    But again, these are not normal times. Arizonans are in their 10th year of drought, despite an uptick in rainfall during last year’s monsoon season because of a single storm on a single day. And while it has been a cool, damp winter here, the clear waters of the Blanco River still look low. Officially, more than half of Texas’ 269,000 square miles are plagued by drought. Conservatively, this would make for the fifth consecutive year of drought in Texas. Meanwhile, today, the average American uses 100 gallons of water a day.

    So the race to engineer a new solution is underway, and Wimberley finds itself squarely in the path. The drilling here would rely on a few landowners, whose land is beyond any water conservation district. Exploiting this gap in the patchwork of Texas water laws, the Houston company would pump five million gallons a day out of the Trinity Aquifer to the Austin suburbs of Buda and Kyle.

    Other cities are following suit. San Antonio has begun a controversial and costly initiative to pump water from beneath exurban Burleson County, 42 miles away. Over the objections of rural Texans and the concern of city dwellers facing a nearly 20 percent water-bill hike, this solution will cost $3.4 billion. It is being managed by San Antonio Water Systems, which everyone calls by its acronym, SAWS.

    As a result of such plans, ranchers, farmers and rural people face the prospect of running dry. Politically and financially weaker, small towns are no match for big cities and corporations. Yet aquifers have many who rely on them; the Trinity stretches from San Antonio to Dallas. Rare species of darters and salamanders live above it, and blind catfish inside its caverns....."
     
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  8. Mondragon Lawn Serv

    Mondragon Lawn Serv LawnSite Senior Member
    from Texas
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    Guess you got the same rain we did. We're so behind and i have calls and VM's and emails with when are we going to get to them.
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  9. RhettMan

    RhettMan LawnSite Silver Member
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    mowing service?
     
  10. Mondragon Lawn Serv

    Mondragon Lawn Serv LawnSite Senior Member
    from Texas
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    Some of those but mostly new installs on irrigation and landscape.
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