Well like the title says. I do lawn care, snow removal, and landscape/design/own a nursery for myself and retail. We have a lot going as you guys may be aware off. Well this year already lost $50K in landscape jobs due to bidding against guys that have no clue. Today another call saying there budget was $10K. We were at $9790.00 Plants, 100 ft of composite fencing, bullet edgers, 38 ton of what we call over size rock (4-6 inch) and 2 rolls of 10 x 100 plastic. I get a screen shot saying there going with the other crew who I had no idea did this work and they bid out 20 ton of 2 inch rock, 1 roll of 4 mill plastic and $1600 of bushes of there choice. There bid, $9,690.00 They had $7600 of what they called labor. No fence, no edgers, and choice of bushes/plants. So alittle research and one guy is a banker by day and the other guy is an instructor at school. I know you guys will say I could of, should of, etc but I have dyna scapes software which is great. All my nursery prices are built in, and we forward that to quickbooks for a the report and print out plan and were off. I get tired of people like that. Over all it gives the true Professional a bad name/reputation, etc. The other bid we lost was a new house. These people told me well, your established, always looks like your parking lot is full, nice newer equipment so were going with these guys...blah blah blah. Last year I stopped returning calls to there clients. They would call me. I go out and visit not knowing who, what when where until I get there. Plants/bushes don't look good and I can see first hand that location of such bush is wrong yet everything looks new. So I ask, so if you guys did this, where ya get the plan or bushes, or how ya go about doing this. Well, truth usually comes out and well, we went with xyz crew. Bushes planted where they shouldn't be. To much sun, not enough sun, shade, height, etc. I try to sell ourselves but nope, I get the run around that there new, there young and I guess they have a lot to learn but the price was right so I'll deal with it. Then why call me!