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Low Volume spraying with a Permagreen

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by RasterBlaster, Jun 10, 2004.

  1. RasterBlaster

    RasterBlaster LawnSite Member
    Messages: 19

    Has anyone been successful with spraying anything besides weed control with their Permagreen? Maybe Talstar or fungicide or supplements? I'm trying to milk this $4600 toy for all she's worth.

    (I asked about low volume spraying of supplements over on the Organic forum, got no takers.)

  2. specialtylc

    specialtylc LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,656

    Many fungicides and such need a high volume of water to wash the product into the root zone.
  3. RasterBlaster

    RasterBlaster LawnSite Member
    Messages: 19

    Yea, I know the challenges associated with low volume spraying. The obvious one being the chemical is sprayed onto the blades so any uptake needs to be through the cell wall cause there is not enough carrier to take in down to the soil. There are spray-able fungicides though.
  4. James Cormier

    James Cormier LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Ma
    Messages: 1,217

    Up until this season all I did was weed control, and post crab control ( acclaim ) I always got great results with both.

    This season I started a mosquito control program ( garlic barrier ) and I use the pg for that and it seems to work good, I also started selling a tick control ( talstar ) and people have told me they notice far less ticks so that must be working as well.

    i would think fungis wouldnt work as well, rasterblaster explained that very well.
  5. Stonewall

    Stonewall LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 280

    Resurrecting an old post:

    What if the fungicide is applied at the low volume rate but immediately watered in with the irrigation system to move the fungicide to the soil? Any reason that wouldn't work?
  6. ThreeWide

    ThreeWide LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,116

    I suppose this would depend on whether you were applying a contact or systemic fungicide. As long as a systemic was irrigated afterward, the amount of water used as a carrier should not matter.

    But consider this... if using a contact fungicide could it successfully be applied at low volume by adding surfactant to your mix?

    I've actually pondered the same question this week in preparing quotes for a large property.

    Also most of my fungicides are in WDG form, which can be tough to do with a PG unless you premix in another tank.

    DUSTYCEDAR LawnSite Fanatic
    from PA
    Messages: 5,132

    i dont trust it to put down enough liquid to get good results with many fungicides still like the old hose for those apps
  8. Shades of Green LService

    Shades of Green LService LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,011

    I have spoken to the guys at my local Lesco about applying fungicides with the PG and they told me Spectator would probably work but I would have to make 2 passes. Also someone has posted that they have used EAGLE with the PG as well.Not sure about Insecticides Though.
  9. TurfProSTL

    TurfProSTL LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 693

    Check product labels for low-volume dilution rates.

    Liquid formulations would seem to be better options, for agitation reasons.

    We've had good results with liquid insecticides and Eagle (liquid). Read the labels, though, because some products can be damaging to plants at high product to lower volume water dilution rates, unless watered immediately.
  10. vegomatic40

    vegomatic40 LawnSite Senior Member
    from 6
    Messages: 406

    EC formulations might work but I would be hesitant since the only agitation is through the shaking of the machine while doing the app. WDG's would certainly be out. Maybe installing a higher volume pump and wading through the potential nightmare of wiring, mounting,calibration and then installing a sparge agitator in the bottom of the tank. By that time one could yank out the hose from a skid-sprayer and be certain that is was applied at label rates.

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