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Machines to clear Tines/Scarifacation debris

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by Lawn dood, Mar 23, 2014.

  1. Lawn dood

    Lawn dood LawnSite Member
    Messages: 3


    Is there such a machine, which effectivley clears hollow tines and heavy moss/thatch debris which is left behind by scarifyers and hollow tining machines?

    on a daily basis i visit many lawns, performing hollow tining/scarifying.

    raking and bagging is the most time consuming part of the day.

    i was wondering if there is anything you guys can reccomened which clears this kind of debris? which is small enough to fit in a van and to get around the average 100-200 meter lawn?

  2. Lawn dood

    Lawn dood LawnSite Member
    Messages: 3

    somthing that basicly scoops up into a bag to save me raking it all manually.

    i have seen basic push lawn sweepers

    but i am not sure if they will be able to cope with this degree of debris
  3. JonesLawnCareWV

    JonesLawnCareWV LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 266

    If I understand the question correctly, you're looking for something to pick up thatch and cores left on the lawn after treatment? Couldn't you use a mower with a bagger to pick it all up? I haven't ever de-thatched/aerated but most guys use a bag mower to pick up thatch debris, and usually leave cores to decompose or run over them with a mulch mower to grind them up and return them to the soil on top.

    Edit: this information I only know from reading / watching what other guys on LS have posted. As I said, I haven't done de-thatching or aerating yet as I'm a new business
  4. Lawn dood

    Lawn dood LawnSite Member
    Messages: 3

    yes, after treatment somthing to collect thatch/cores

    a mower won't touch the cores, and trying to mow over the removed thatch/moss causes the bag to fill in about 2 seconds, and only ever picks up a very small percentage of the debris, the rest is just kicked out to the side of the mower.

    my current method is;

    1) rake into lots of little piles
    2) use large leaf collector claws to grab large amounts at once
    3) throw into big ton bags

    i have had a few jobs where i have filled up over 30 ton bags of moss/thatch!

    i would say 80% of the hard work right now is bagging and raking.

    i real back breaker!

    idealy i need somthing with the power to collect, and a large enough capacity to make it worthwhile, along with being convienient enough to use on average domestic lawns
  5. JonesLawnCareWV

    JonesLawnCareWV LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 266

    I can imagine its rough to pick all that up by hand. Like I said, my info is only from what I've read. I've seen guys post pictures/videos of using a de-thatcher then a large ZT mower with a bagging system to pick up the thatch debris. Always seems to work out okay, but maybe its because they are larger machines with more power. I can see a push mower getting bogged down really quick if there's a lot of thatch debris. The guys who mention mulching the cores usually say they core-aerate and leave the cores to dry for a few hours/days, then come back later and mulch them once they're dry and light weight. Again, I'm new to the industry so I don't have experience doing this practice. Just reading.

    Good luck thought, I hope you can find a better method! My leaf jobs consist of a lot of raking/manual bagging and I know how tiring and back-breaking it can be!
  6. ducnut

    ducnut LawnSite Bronze Member
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    CHARLES CUE LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,414

    You are talking about aerating

    I have seen ones that mount on a ez go cart that golf courses use but the only thing that I know of is a shove and rake that will fit in a van.

    So if you remove dirt from a lawn every day wont the lawns get ?
  8. JTLarson

    JTLarson LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from Shenandoah, IA
    Messages: 274

    I know core aerating is better, but I would go with a solid tine aerator versus having to clean up all the plugs. The plugs should be left, but I know that some clients don't like the look.
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  9. Exact Rototilling

    Exact Rototilling LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,378

    Glad someone else said this. I have a power rake dethatch overseed combo here in a bit. The plan is to low mow down to 1.5" with G6 gators and full side discharge once verticut with seeder bar only instead of flail blades along with seed. Make 2-3 passes with my plugr 850 [equivalent of 6-8 passes with a rolling tine unit...let plugs dry a tad...mulch plate mow with G6 blades and break up all those plugs back down on the lawn. Let frost heave and spring rains take it from there.
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