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Discussion in 'Business Operations' started by mike ingles, May 16, 2013.

  1. tonygreek

    tonygreek LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,867

    Mowing grass, while a profession, does not fall under the category of, say, chemical engineering . Now, if you have systems/methods in place that can be convincing enough to be considered IP, then have at it. A person's ability to earn a living will prevail over anything that is less than that, especially for a general skill/knowledge job.
  2. mike ingles

    mike ingles LawnSite Member
    Messages: 6

    Quality will always win-out. Still, there is a percentage of clients that always shop price and allowing a competitor a foothold, allowing them to have their equipment seen in the neighborhood has got to give any small-businessman pause.
    A non-compete is valid if it is not too restrictive. In other words, you can have someone sign a promise not to solicit business in a narrow area--say a section of town--but cannot restrict them from a total city, state.
    Whether or not it would be worth the costs of litigation is difficult to know. Still, strictly from a practical point-of-view, a non-compete might be a decent insurance policy.
    Do you think that asking employees, after they've been hired and on the job for a number of months, would cause ill-feelings?
  3. mike ingles

    mike ingles LawnSite Member
    Messages: 6

    Are you a Buckeye? I live in Columbus and my granddaughter just graduated last quarter.
  4. tonygreek

    tonygreek LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,867

    Class of '95, living in UA.

    I always enjoy the non-compete discussions mostly because I can't imagine anyone spending the money to keep a guy from mowing lawns. I've been under several, very firm, non-competes and am actually looking forward to reading my girlfriend's new one. She's highly specialized and will be under a market radius non-compete. The funny thing is that, somewhat flying in the face of my own argument, the only way she could live within 70 miles of Columbus to do what she does, she would have to violate the 24 month, post-separation agreement. At what point does that tip against her ability to survive?

    As you point out, quality should be the differentiator. Price shoppers will always exist, but quality and professionalism tend to prevail.
  5. jrs.landscaping

    jrs.landscaping LawnSite Silver Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 2,763

    I agree.....

    I worked for another company in school from the same town as me, he is no longer in business but we never poached work from him. If an employee wants to leave best of luck :waving: there is more to being an LCO than mowing and trimming. The guys we have know this, they're honest and say "would I like to own a mowing company, yeah. Do I want the headaches NO." If they did leave I'd wish them luck and help them if they needed it.

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