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depends on the state, some require minimum wage some are a percentage of minimum wage. I always thought it was crazy, makes for a guaranteed expectation of a tip, even if the service is trash.

Imo it’s a fair pay system . When restaurants are slow literally making zero profit…waitstaff sit around doing nothing … and make the minimum. When the restaurant is busy and makes more $$ …the waitstaff has to hustle but they make more $$$. If waitstaff goes above and beyond w good service …they will usually be tipped better for that service. My wife is a waitress she’s developed relationships w customers and regularly gets $50-$100+ tips from a single customer because ppl really love her. Crappy waitresses don’t last long / if they stay they can actually affect the business negatively. A Good waitress can help create good experience/ repeat customers/ and turn over more tables faster since they are on top of things and get ppl seated and served as fast as possible. Sounds like p4p to me

 

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The guy that said they should be making 30 plus an hour

Not “should”… but definitely could. My wife regularly makes $300-400 on a 4-5 hour shift. But she works at a pricey Italian restaurant and has a lot of regular customers. it also helps that she’s hot and has a cute Polish accent .

 

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Are you going to pay Jose who can hardly speak English , or three toothed Jimmy 26 bucks an hour when he best asset is holding a line trimmer?

Need to Add this to the list of “why can’t I keep employees”?
It’s crazy how many owners don’t respect the trimmer guy. He’s running around every lawn while the mower guys sit on their arss most of the day. . Trimming is an important detail and speed and a clean job actually matter. I prefer to start a new guy on the mowers… cuz trimming is just as important to me & almost as hard to get good at. So I don’t think they deserve less regardless off their vocabulary or how many teeth in their mouth.

 

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Whenever I last managed a restaurant, it was an average per pay period. Being that all of our shifts had regular busy times and downtimes, the servers were encouraged to do their “side work,” during the downtimes. That said, if it was a known time that was always “dead,” and the servers were being required to work (yet without opportunities for tips), they were permitted to clock-in as the lowest paid wage (which the restaurant I worked at, everyone was above minimum wage other than servers and delivery drivers). There were “seasons,” where the servers’ wages, with tips, averaged to be less than minimum wage (very rare). During those times, they were compensated at an increased hourly rate (restaurant minimum wage as opposed to server minimum wage). Although, I’m no longer in the restaurant industry, I can say at a well established restaurant it’s not unheard of to average $65-$110/hour (with tips, of course). Not sure how the bartenders as Applebee’s fair, but at privately owned restaurants, many bartenders will average $150/hour. Lots of unreported money that moves around in the restaurant industry.



My mother has been a waitress for about 50 years now. Growing up, it was restaurants that offered “lunch shifts,” that put my mom home with us children before school, and home with us children after school. While the shifts/scheduling may look unappealing to some, it works really well for others. 💁‍♀️ Restaurant employment essentially allowed my mom to be both a working and a stay at home mom.


I can’t imagine someone being upset at someone who performs well at his or her job, and therefore earns an above average living as a result.

Good on your daughter! I’m sure you and your wife are proud of her work ethic. Brings the old saying to mind, “hard work pays off!”



Yeah, this is pretty standard as far as I know!



Totally read through this whole thread…cannot see/comprehend what you’re getting at, man. And, if anything, you should be able to figure out why he may (as he never really made a statement one way or the other) hold servers in a high regard — his daughter is a server, and a good one based on the things he has shared.

Why should good employees not be held in high regard?? No matter the industry.

Most ppl w that attitude towards servers … have never served a meal in their life. Never mind 200 meals a night to a restaurant full of ppl that all want something different. All w different attitudes and personalities some very nasty towards you especially when “hangry”. The females get stupid and pervy comments constantly from both customers and kitchen staff. it’s just “part of the job” though. Servers w accents are often talked down on. Never knowing exactly how much they’ll make. Yea actually servers deserve a pretty good pay I’d never wanna do it.

 

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Out of my 20 ish properties. I average 5 hours on the mower. The trimming is what eats most of my time.

Opposite here.

 

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We're defining trimming as a difficult skill?

I didn’t say “difficult” but it’s equally important as mowing.