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Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by cjcland, Mar 21, 2000.

  1. cjcland

    cjcland LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 278

    would some of you veterans please tell me what some of the common mistakes and pitfalls made by a fairly new company?<p>----------<br>CJC Landscape Management<br>Winter Haven, Florida
  2. yardsmith

    yardsmith LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ohio
    Messages: 628

    One of the biggest mistakes new guys make is taking on too much work at a time & lowballing to get work in the first place.<br>Been there, done that. I think you may need to burn your self a bit once or twice, or see it happen to someone else to really remember what it's like to be under the gun & hating it for takin on too much work. That feeling stays with you to help you remember in the future. Nothing is worse than getting up in the morning & saying 'oh man I'm losin $$ every time I show up at this place', or 'man how am I ever gonna get this work done-I took too much'. Those have stuck w/me.<br>Something I've noticed others do is get too big too fast, by taking on too much, but also buying way too much or too big of equipment they don't need, then scramble like mad to find work for it. Grow as you go, & be sure of your self & your finances, but also don't be afraid to take risks.<br>Good luck.<p>----------<br>Smitty ô¿ô<br>
  3. Lazer

    Lazer LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,446

    I agree with Smitty.<p>1.) Do what you say you're going to do.<br>2.) Charge lots of $$.<br>3.) Be reliable as a Swiss Watch.
  4. cjcland

    cjcland LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 278

    thank you for he posts does anyone else please have any post to add to this?<p>----------<br>CJC Landscape Management<br>Winter Haven, Florida
  5. dbroome

    dbroome LawnSite Member
    Messages: 23

    the biggest complaint you will hear is &quot;they told me they were going to be here and i havn't seen them. I don't care if you are having a heart attack and need a tripple bypass you make sure you are there when you say you will be. nobody wants an event planned and you were supposed to do the lawn that day and didn't. that makes the customer look bad and worst of all that makes you look bad. All my clients stay happy and don't mind paying my prices because i am dependable. also don't low ball prices you will hate yourself for it. If you get out bid so what you wern't going to make any $ anyway. don't sacrafice quality of your work just to get the job. you do good work and your business will grow. also dress nice when you are working. look like a pro. no metalica t's and all that save it for when you get off work.
  6. accuratelawn

    accuratelawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 922

    Having been in the biz only four years, I have just left the situations described above. Low ball - toooo much work - stess - not making enough money.<br>Know your costs<br>Know what the competition is charging<br>Don't trade productivity for quality work<br>&lt; If you got into for the enjoyment of working outside and being proud of you efforts &gt; Work smarter not harder.<br>If you provide a great service in a timely manor you will build a list of quality customers that are willing to pay for your service. Good luck.
  7. BigElow

    BigElow LawnSite Member
    from Texas
    Messages: 1

    How can I measure my prices outside of the competitions prices. Does anybody recommend a formula or book of cost measurements? Also, I am thinking of starting a lawn service soon, but I am concerned with it being too late in the season. Is it? also, how do you deal with off-seasons?
  8. MOW ED

    MOW ED LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,028

    I have been in business 5 years and the above reasons are great so in addition to them my biggest mistake was starting out with &quot;less than commercial&quot; equipment. Every thing you use will be put to the test and will eventually wear out. Commercial equipment lengthens the interval. Result is more time working (making money) less time repairing (spending money on something you really don't want to).
  9. Richard Martin

    Richard Martin LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,697

    As far as pricing does, a rule of thumb that has been mentioned elsewhere on this message board is: $20.00 unload fee and then $1.25 to $1.75 per thousand square feet. This includes weedeating. For more difficult jobs like steep hills and an over abundace of weedeating add additional fees. <p>As far as the off season goes, here is your best advice, GET A JOB! If all you plan to do is cut grass then once the leaves start falling your season is over until the next spring. If you are just starting out and only have a couple of customers do them on Friday and get a job for the rest of the week. Convert it to fulltime in the winter. Whatever you do, don't lay around the house waiting for something to happen, get out there and do it.
  10. GrassMaster

    GrassMaster Senior Member
    Messages: 447

    Hello:<p>The biggest mistakes I made was:<p>I worked harder not smarter until it was too late! <br>I had a real bad heat stroke.<p>I can do all the work myself!<br>Changed my mind after I fell off the roof of a house.<br>If you want the big bucks you need help.<p>Nobody is as good as I am.<br>Thats stupid to even say, because they are every where.<p>I don't need a measuring wheel, I'm a good guesser?<br>More later!<p>There's plenty more, just think about them.<p>PS: BigElow<p>What good would somebody elses measurements do. Buy your self a measuring wheel & take your own measurements.<p>If all of the above people that replied to this one post, I think 8 or 9 of them & put them on the exact same ZTR's & same amount of grass, lets say 10,000sq. ft. I bet every bodies time would be different. Also the same for edging, trimming, blowing & etc...<p>Think about it, you are going to have to get a wheel anyway, make your own measurements. The wheel will make you money, LOL even if you don't use your own formulas. It will at least make you look like you know what you are doing.<p>What would you think if somebody came over to your house & walked around it for 15 or 20 minutes. Then comes up to you & says &quot; Yeh, you need 22 1/2 yards of carpet & I will do it for $1,125.00. This person had no measuring tape, pencil or paper.<p>----------<br>GrassMaster - Home: www.lawnservicing.com<br>My Start Up Page www.lawnservicing.com/startup/<br>

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