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Momentum Does not seem to be working ?

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Is it just my momentum or maybe the weather making it really challenging to control weeds this season ??? I was thinking of changing to Confront , BUt from doing a search it seems confront is basically in momentum, So then why is it not working effectively.. ?????
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what date did you apply, what rate and what are the target weeds?
.....and how long has it been since you applied it??/
i used momentum this spring not to bad but did nothing on clover
went back out with trimec plus killed all the weeds and a Little grass
now using trimec classic works ok in the heat:cool:
What rate?

I use it and it kills every target weed I spray.
the labeled rate but does nothing on clover in pa. enen my lesco rep agrees and said to try confront
.....with the exception of Dogfennel it works great on the other weeds I target. :D
.75 oz per gallon kills clover in 3 days here in NC, not sure why it would be different.
I use the label rate, and it is not working on most weeds ? Clover , dandelions, and other braodleafs, crab grass, etc... It worked last year, but its seems it not doing nada this year ? could the weeds be getting imune to it ?? I just applied some last week, but have sprayed and done granular too many times this year.. Im losing money on it and my lawns are looking nasty...on some lawns I'm on my 4th application....
I have been getting mixed results with Momentum this year. Some lawns it works just fine, even blowing away violets in one app. Other lawns, not so good. I don't have an explanation for the variance but I can tell its there.

And to pre-emptively answer some obvious questions, tank agitation is working and adequate. Mixing is reliable and consistent at 1.1oz for .5 gallon to be applied on 1000 sq/ft. Product does not linger in tank for more then a few days, and the applications are being performed evenly and at stated rates.
Problem in the Northeast was that we had a COLD spring/early summer. I sprayed in the Spring as well as we do in the Fall.
We had killed the targeted spring weeds, no problem. One small problem was Clover, appears we stunted it rather than kill it.

We reaplied in July, Killed it within a week. No damage to turf. My take on this was that in the real cold spring, though the plants were growing, they were not vigorously growing and lots of cloudy days, so the intake of the herbicide into the plant was minimal. Weather warmed the weed plants we more actively growing so the intact was better.

We use Super Trimec.
Originally posted by SCAPEASAURUSREX
I use the label rate, and it is not working on most weeds ? Clover , dandelions, and other braodleafs, crab grass, etc..
Momentum will not kill crab grass, not labeled to either.
My LESCO rep pushed Momentum when I got started. In a turfgrass class at Shelton State we plotted an area and compared several herbicides, including Momentum. Trimec performed best. I use LESCO 3way or Trimec 992 on Bermuda and Zoysia grasses.
:blob3: not sure why the lesco dealer of all would tell you to switch to confront, momentum has the same ingredinets as confront just up your dose to 1 oz. to a gallon, usin it here in jersey with no problems at all. as a matter a fact we are tank mixin it with drive for the crabgrass, seems to be doin the trick. tony
I use Lesco sticker mixed in with Momentum and seems to help

the Momentum label specifically states to use during warm
weather, whatever "warm" means...

early spring next year I'm going to try an ester-based formulation
when temps are cool
confront and momentum AREN'T the same chemicals!
momentum is 24d plus confront (at reduced ai per gal) !!!
Originally posted by PJ Binder
super trimec will kill all
Sucks on crabgrass though. I use drive for crabby pants grass.
Weeds harden off (talking Northeast here) after mid-June and you WILL NOT get the same control you get in the spring, no matter what. It is not like the controls do not work, but you get less than optimal control.

We stop mid-June and start up again early October.

I have tried everything - the best combo (for here) is 0.9 oz of Trimec or Lesco Three-Way or UHS Mec-Amine D, plus 0.4 oz of Confront per 1000. This kills just about eveything and we have never had damage from it. Clover is toast quickly and Wild Violets take a beating, but they are always prone to come back. These are Amine formulas of course. In late fall (November), UHS Chaser Ester works very well.
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