More Mini Excavators

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by AWJ Services, Sep 9, 2006.

  1. AWJ Services

    AWJ Services LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Ga
    Messages: 4,281

    This post kinda follows my post about the Under 20K Exc.

    There was some good info but I have a few more questions.

    I have narrowed it down too around a 10k machine or a 16k machine.

    I will be doing normal stuff for these size machines ,but I will also start doing Septic tanks next year and I need a machine capable of this also.
    The ground is hard red clay here and the machine needs some power.

    I also will use it for digging stumps and about everything else you can think of.

    I also will use it occasional too dig out against basement walls for sealing.

    I think I need too stay with some sort of reduced radius tail and some sort of boom offset capabilities?

    Bobcat ,Takeuchi,Komatsu,Cat,John Deere,Case and Kubota all have good dealers here.

    I prefer Takeuchi and I also have rented several Komatsu's that seem to be good machines.
    I am not against buying another brand.As usual I am looking for the most bang for the buck.
    I will get good dealer support with any of these brands.

    Is there any real advantage too stepping up too the 16 k machines?

    The PC 50 Komatsu and the PC75UU-3 are a good example.

    The Takeuchi TB153fr seems too strike a Happy medium.

    I have a friend that purchased a Bobcat 435 and he does similar work as me.
    The Bocat is a little weak in his words.He does alot of Septic work.

    I will also have it equiped with a Hyd thumb and will use it too load dumpsters and light demo work.

    Thanks again.
  2. jazak

    jazak LawnSite Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 843

    Heres a good deal;

    2005 Case CX47 EROPS, Yanmar 4TNE88 Diesel 36.5 HP Engine, Hydrostatic Transmission, 16" Rubber Tracks, Hydrostatic Drive, Bucket Width: 18" (4.5 Cu Ft), Blade Width: 76", 470hr.s. $56,000 PM me for phone ##
  3. forestfireguy

    forestfireguy LawnSite Senior Member
    from nj
    Messages: 601

    Go with a CAT 305 it has 0 tail swing and lots and lots of power, go with the hyd. thumb option if you can it is really handy.
  4. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    The septic tanks is going to be a big problem a 10,000-12,000lb machine isn't going to set them. A 16,000lb machine isn't going to beable to set them we use a 160 size machine or a crane truck to set concrete tanks.

    I don't know how big the stumps you want to dig a 10,000lb machine can do it but will take alot of time.

    Digging the clay will all depend on your bucket size sure a heavier machine will dig faster but the smaller machine will dig it but slower.

    I would even look at a 12,000lb machine the extra 2000lbs makes a difference machine size.
  5. AWJ Services

    AWJ Services LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Ga
    Messages: 4,281

    The tank company usually sets them with there truck.
    Sometimes they cannot access the area then you have too make other arrangments.

    Most of my work is usually in peoples back yards that have a landscaped front yard.
    So bringing a 30k excavator back there will never happen.
    When they need there backyard cleared compact stuff is the only choose so time is on my side.
    Most stumps are Pine and usually less than 20 inches in diameter.

    I personally have never runany Cat mini's.I will give it a try.

    I actually just got home from digging a drainage ditch through a wet area in a guys back yard.
    Rented a Komatsu PC35MR.
    For an 8200 pound machine it was well balanced and had good power.
    It was very wet were I was at so I spent some time with mud over the top of the tracks.
    Machine had plenty of power too free itself.

    I my call Komatsu and take a look at the PC50 also.

    Boy is my Wife going too be mad if I come home with anything else.:hammerhead:
  6. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    So a 10,000 to 12,000lb machine would probably do the jobs you want to do.

    If you are looking at Komatsu which are okay machines not the best but they are priced reasonably. The PC-50 would probably the smallest I would go its 11,000lbs. A PC-60 would probably a little on the large side for doing the tight quarters work.

    In my are Komatsu has one of the best equipment support they exceed Cat by a long shot.
  7. AWJ Services

    AWJ Services LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Ga
    Messages: 4,281

    In your opinion what are there negatives.
  8. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    The Komatsu machines are a little on the cheap side they are a decent machine but they have their quirks. If you buy a Komatsu you buy one brandnew then you know what you got its not beat to hell. The Komatsu machines don't have any major glaring faults if thats what your looking for. We did find the Komatsu engines are a little piggy on fuel the engine in the 158 would suck back fuel more than the Isuzu engine in the 150s.

    My preference is Hitachi or Deere allot of the guys here are Cat lovers.
  9. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,168

    I would demo a a TK 153. They hit that market right in the middle. Actually some of the specs are very comparable to the 17K machines namely bucket breakout and crowding force. I take out a lot of stumps. It is surprisingly easy. One stump was 8 feet across and I was able to free it, get it out of the hole. Only needed help loading it on a trailer.
  10. AWJ Services

    AWJ Services LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Ga
    Messages: 4,281

    I really have been interested in that model for sure.

    The PC35 I rented had an extended reach.

    The rental company said that they ordered a standard arm but recieved this one instead and decided too keep it.
    The added reach is realy nice.

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