This post kinda follows my post about the Under 20K Exc. There was some good info but I have a few more questions. I have narrowed it down too around a 10k machine or a 16k machine. I will be doing normal stuff for these size machines ,but I will also start doing Septic tanks next year and I need a machine capable of this also. The ground is hard red clay here and the machine needs some power. I also will use it for digging stumps and about everything else you can think of. I also will use it occasional too dig out against basement walls for sealing. I think I need too stay with some sort of reduced radius tail and some sort of boom offset capabilities? Bobcat ,Takeuchi,Komatsu,Cat,John Deere,Case and Kubota all have good dealers here. I prefer Takeuchi and I also have rented several Komatsu's that seem to be good machines. I am not against buying another brand.As usual I am looking for the most bang for the buck. I will get good dealer support with any of these brands. Is there any real advantage too stepping up too the 16 k machines? The PC 50 Komatsu and the PC75UU-3 are a good example. The Takeuchi TB153fr seems too strike a Happy medium. I have a friend that purchased a Bobcat 435 and he does similar work as me. The Bocat is a little weak in his words.He does alot of Septic work. I will also have it equiped with a Hyd thumb and will use it too load dumpsters and light demo work. Thanks again.