Mower in pieces due to poor design help?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Bunton Guy, Mar 9, 2005.

  1. Bunton Guy

    Bunton Guy LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,909

    This is for all of you Great Dane owners I have a great dane super surfer 52" with a 18 Vanguard. I got the oil filter off by punching a hole in it with a screw driver and wiggling it off. Now trying to get the oil filter back on is nearly impossible. The hydro pump is in the way....any ideas Great Dane owners?
  2. Bunton Guy

    Bunton Guy LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,909

    ohh and the Vanguard has a choice between the normal sized filter and a shortie version..I have the shortie but still it wont go on without hitting the hydro pump. Sure you can remove the hydro pump but I sure as **** aint going to do that everytime I change the oil & filter.
  3. LightningLawns

    LightningLawns LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 279

    should have bought a wright stander :p
  4. Richard Martin

    Richard Martin LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,699

    I can't help you get the filter back on but I can tell you that there are a number of companies that make remote oil filter setups. You only need to cross reference the filter to a automobile application and then get the remote filter for that engine. The Fram filter to fit your engine is PH3416.
  5. Bunton Guy

    Bunton Guy LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,909

    The 3416 is the oil filter I use in my vanguards but due to the lack of area to fit this filter in I choose to use the OEM filter that was half the height.

    As to the wright stander comment..I had one and sold it, after busting up my legs on that nifty bar that looses its foam I was tired of missing skin & hair from hitting bumps.
  6. a+elawnserviceww

    a+elawnserviceww LawnSite Member
    from nj
    Messages: 26

    i own a 32 inch proline toro and i cloud not get my filter off in-less i put a screw throw the old filter and turn it. in till i found this filter wrench work great on wall-mart filter (super-tech) check it out
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  7. locutus

    locutus LawnSite Bronze Member
    from NC
    Messages: 1,266

    Not trying to add insult to injury here, but just about every forum that I participate in has a multitude of dissatisfied Great Dane owners. How can a company like this be so poorly run? From the top to the bottom, there is not a more perfect example of corporate ineptitude than Great Dane.
  8. Bunton Guy

    Bunton Guy LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,909

    My model of mower was a product of John Deere...this one was made after deere took it over. Maybe they are trying to run the Dane part of the company into the ground? This engine I have on the mower is not very common but thats no excuse. Its not an object of having no leverage its a problem with the filter actually touches the hydro pump...literally the filter backs right up to the housing of the pump.
  9. Norm Al

    Norm Al LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,227

    take the motor off,,,,put the filter on,,,,then put the motor back on!
  10. txlawnking

    txlawnking LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,905

    Loosen the mounting bolts for the pump, and see if you can scoot the pump over just a tad.. On mine I had the 22hp Kohler, the long filter was no bueno.. I bet you really love that piece of crap valve deal to drain the oil too, don't ya? On mine I would remove the back cover just to change the oil.. It made the job a lot less miserable.

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