mr-8 and gutter mount

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by David Gretzmier, Jun 19, 2008.

  1. David Gretzmier

    David Gretzmier LawnSite Gold Member
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    I've put in some mr-8 j-lighters from nightscaping in the past and did a bid today that included 6 gutter mounts on a 2 story home with setback dormer/peaks. I was wondering if there are any other mr-8 fixtures out there, or maybe some tiny bi-pin floods that cost less than a tank of gas? I was quite shocked when told of the cost of J-liters today, they are at least twice what they used to be at my local supply place.

    I am also looking for another option on gutter mounts if anyone has ideas.

    on a seperate rant, WHY are j-liters so high anyway? it literally is a one inch copper pipe, a socket, and a few smaller pieces of pipe with screws. I think I could build a workable gutter mount mr-8 fixture in an hour with 10 bucks in copper pipe parts!
  2. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
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    I dont have an MR8 but I have an MR11 that is real nice.....not a flood though, more of a bullet/spot. Not sure what gutter mount you are using, I thought we were the only company that made one for lighting? I could be wrong.....My suggestion for lighting out of gutters is to use the steller, I think a lot of guys like this application.

  3. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I have a couple of the SPJ mr8 lights here. We took them out of the landscape and reinstalled them in the rafters above the bbq outside and they work nice. That with Joeys uni bracket might work nice for ya ? Not sure on the cost comparison tho. Well built light from SPJ but I think they are kinda high in the price dept if I rememeber right.
  4. David Gretzmier

    David Gretzmier LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,646

    Yeah, I really don't get the price unless the volume is so low on mr-8s that the tooling is just way expensive to manufacture. I'm gonna actually try to make an mr-8 fixture with a 1 inch sched. 40 copper pipe, a 1 inch cap that I will drill out for lens and a 45 degree street elbow to 1/2 male pipe thread for mounting to base. an o-ring for lens and a socket should complete the job. I've got that simialr gutter base above, it may be from joey's company, I buy it at an electrical supply place here called upchurch electric.
  5. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,102

    David, have fun building that fixture... but remember not to install it onto a client's home until it is either Listed by UL, ETL, ARL, CSA etc OR you might have the ability to have your local Electrical Safety Agency inspect and 'sticker' individual fixtures as we can have done here in Ontario. Either way, make sure it is 'passed' before you install them on a client's property.

    I learned this the hard way a number of years ago.... NEVER again.
  6. Eden Lights

    Eden Lights LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 805

    Stick with MR11s over the MR8's due to the lamp life, unless it's a must in very special, visable location.
  7. irrig8r

    irrig8r LawnSite Platinum Member
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    David, you're welcome to a Jayliter I have here that I got as a sample a couple of years ago if you have something reasonable to trade.... I'm just not that impressed with it, and the cost of an MR-8 lamp is ridiculous...
  8. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
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    the color doesnt match or at least the ones I have dont. Its much cooler color. Works nice over the bbq but it might be getting swapped out for something a bit diff soon
  9. David Gretzmier

    David Gretzmier LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,646

    something reasonable to trade...I've got a cool super bright ( for aa) cree aa flashlight with those sharpened tip thiny's for close in weapon use. would be great for the glove box. I'd throw in some keychain button me if you are interested.

    as fas as getting it UL listed, i'm just playing around to see if I can build it first. I've found a source of mr-18's that is reasonable priced, let's say, between washington and lincoln. Since I sorta build and modify flashlights I'm gonna have a go at a landscape light.

    for the record, I've check a few of my lights, and some have the UL sticker and some don't, but then I checked a new kichler 120 volt fixture I am installing in my house( wall sconce ) , and it does not have the UL sticker either.
  10. Litewerks Expert Lighting

    Litewerks Expert Lighting LawnSite Member
    Messages: 32

    i've got access to a really nice mr8 fixture that i use for surface mount. the price is right. drop me an email if youd like and i will get with you on pricing.

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