thanx Pete, well i am already seeing new grass in my very thin areas and my other grass is greening up slowly because of the watering. i know this is PRG but nice to see some progress. I find myself constantly looking over my area that was not thin for growth but nothing yet. Yes I know i have alot of time on my hands! Before I seeded i hadnt put on any water and we had a very dry April so my grass was pretty beat. I am making sure i still have some top soil on thinning areas, we had some heavy rain so i replaced what was washed away. I have pulled back on watering when we actually get rain but normally i am having irrigation on VERY short at 5am 1230pm and 545pm.