National Association of Landscape Professionals

Ijustwantausername

LawnSite Silver Member
Location
Raleigh NC
if you are into commercial or municipal installations, if you look at some of the fine print for qualifications it will frequently state the installers need to be CLT certified (not always but I do see it often) , if someone is awarded a bid over you and you are certified and you know they aren't, you can protest and win the bid if you are the next lowest bidder that is actually qualified....so there is a bit of a benefit there.

Also by having your people certified you know they are all performing the same tasks the same way... not "their own way" it helps with consistency.

just my two cents.
That’s interesting, I aim to target more commercials as we grow, thus far I haven’t seen that in the fine print. How large a commercial are we talking? Like 20+ acres commercial campus type stuff?
 

TPendagast

LawnSite Fanatic
That’s interesting, I aim to target more commercials as we grow, thus far I haven’t seen that in the fine print. How large a commercial are we talking? Like 20+ acres commercial campus type stuff?
My bad
I meant more along the lines of installation
Not specifically maintenance
I have seen that spec on irrigation maintenance tho.
 

Love the Green Biz

LawnSite Fanatic
Location
NYC Metro Area
Yea
The “success penalty” is non sensical
Should be no more than a two-tier dues system. One for small mow and blow and another for companies with 500,000 or more in revenue. Both should be reasonable in light of what you get in return.

My state landscape association is a bargain-three tiers and none that would break the bank with costs from $240 to $430. You get tons of free education at monthly meetings with full catering for you and all your employees and family members. The food alone is worth the price-now that's how to attract members. Also free webinars from various industry pros and vendor discounts from 5-15%. An example of the savings that would more than pay for your membership would be a plant purchase of $5000 from one of our member nurseries that enjoys a 10% discount.
 

Ijustwantausername

LawnSite Silver Member
Location
Raleigh NC
Should be no more than a two-tier dues system. One for small mow and blow and another for companies with 500,000 or more in revenue. Both should be reasonable in light of what you get in return.

My state landscape association is a bargain-three tiers and none that would break the bank with costs from $240 to $430. You get tons of free education at monthly meetings with full catering for you and all your employees and family members. The food alone is worth the price-now that's how to attract members. Also free webinars from various industry pros and vendor discounts from 5-15%. An example of the savings that would more than pay for your membership would be a plant purchase of $5000 from one of our member nurseries that enjoys a 10% discount.
Could not agree more! Don't get me wrong, I want to be a part of it but when I compare the yearly value of it to my company versus the price point, there is a bit of a disconnect. I instead used that monies to join my local BOMA chapter to work on my pipeline that way.
 

TPendagast

LawnSite Fanatic
Should be no more than a two-tier dues system. One for small mow and blow and another for companies with 500,000 or more in revenue. Both should be reasonable in light of what you get in return.

My state landscape association is a bargain-three tiers and none that would break the bank with costs from $240 to $430. You get tons of free education at monthly meetings with full catering for you and all your employees and family members. The food alone is worth the price-now that's how to attract members. Also free webinars from various industry pros and vendor discounts from 5-15%. An example of the savings that would more than pay for your membership would be a plant purchase of $5000 from one of our member nurseries that enjoys a 10% discount.
"back in the day" those local associations (county state etc) started out more like "clubs", kinda like you just described... you learned stuff just by knowing the old timers and some of their 'wisdom' would rub off on you.

Things seemed more 'professional' back then before jealousy, competition and politics set in.
Now the associations feel more like a laborers union... Not my scene.

Every once in a while, Ill be somewhere - cruising down the road and i'll stop and see someone doing something and wonder - what's he doing there?
These days its more like "WTF does he think he's doing" but sometimes i see something interesting or different I want to learn or know more about.

IMO too much focus on equipment these days and less on 'how to'
 

TPendagast

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I agree. A machine is just a machine but knowledge is power. The power to see something and make it work by knowing the procedures that achieve the best result.
There’s a lot you can do with know how
Everything we do was done before “better equipment” was made.
Use the basics first then grow

you don’t need a woodchipper just because you encountered some brush once or twice.

“OMG the grass is high for five weeks a season I can’t do anything with less that 37hp!”

I used to do this with an 11 hp 48” and an 18” hp 72”
Was it more difficult? sure
Did it take longer? Yes
But when guys don’t even have a full customer list for 40 hours a week.... what’s time right now anyway?

no more patience
No more learning
Just what ever the dealer tells you will get it done now.
The only people that are profiting are the manufacturers
 

Ijustwantausername

LawnSite Silver Member
Location
Raleigh NC
I'll chime in again since someone liked my post and reminded me of this. I am still glad I didn't renew my NALP membership. I am not 100% sure (can't think of another organization) but I think NALP gave my email to a TON of advertisers as it gets blown up weekly. This is a huge annoyance. No matter how many I unsubscribe from I cannot stop them.
 
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