Need Help w/ Nightscaping Transformer & Timer

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by JimLewis, Apr 4, 2009.

  1. irrig8r

    irrig8r LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I was gonna tell you:

    Next time you know you're going to be dealing with a Nightscaping Powercenter, and want to look at the instructions before hand, they're easy to come by.

    (I have the more common control module options printed and laminated and in a binder.)

    But you know what? When the page was redesigned there were a lot of screw-ups.

    Clicking on some of the photos or hypertext links takes you to other product's pages.

    Sometimes clicking just takes you to a wiring diagram, but not the instructions.

    Seems to me Nightscaping is currently operating without a webmaster... low priority maybe.

    Anyway, maybe you'll find something useful if you look around enough.
  2. Randy1972

    Randy1972 LawnSite Member
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    Hi-I have the above unit for path lighting, and a T-10-02SSA: Analog Time Switch. However, there are no instructions for how to set on/off/duration for this puppy! When I spin the outer wheel, the inner wheel and 'clock' also spin! I see the last post was like 2009, but maybe someone will see who knows how to set this timer to work as I'd like it???? Thanks in advance.
  3. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
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  4. irrig8r

    irrig8r LawnSite Platinum Member
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    That link I posted in 2009 doesn't work anymore.

    And this one takes you to the timer, but no instructions.

    I haven't installed a NIghtscaping Powercenter for a few years now.

    For me, it's either Vista or FXL.
  5. LLC RI

    LLC RI LawnSite Member
    Messages: 149

    From what I remember of those timers, they had two metal tripper pins that slid into the timing wheel at the time you wanted them on and off. If you are not hearing/feeling the timer wheel click on and off as you rotate it, it's likely that there are no pins in your wheel.... call nightscaping 1-800-544-4840 and ask to order/get replacement set of pins...
  6. AOLP

    AOLP Inactive
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    Jim, Nightscaping offers an exceptional product. It's the AOLP's desire that they would join the organization as they have much to contribute. knowing the products available in our industry is valuable to all of us. appreciate your input here and hope to see you in atlanta in feb. if you can make it
  7. irrig8r

    irrig8r LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Nightscaping transformers exceptional? They have been long lived in my experience, but a few annoying features with long overdue upgrades had not been corrected last I checked. Safe? Certainly! Reliable? Mostly. Easy to configure? No. Easy access? No. Wide distribution? No.
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  8. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Here is my assessment of the venerable Nightscaping PowerCenter Line of transformers:

    They certainly have been around for long enough to work any bugs out! :) and they are long overdue for some modernization. But they work, hardly ever fail, and have some features that no other transformers offer.

    The case is probably the most in need of some updates. The silly slide up and remove door system, with is sharp edges and easily bent mounting tabs is their weakest 'feature'. Back in the day, many of us were on Bill to update the door to a hinged unit with a clasp, but this would require an expensive re-listing of the entire transformer.

    Inside is where the magic happens. They are a dream to install and wire up for the busy contractor, what with ample room for extra wire and any necessary in-line accessories. I think they have more interior cabinet space than any other transformer on the market. And if this is not factually accurate, then it is the unique, large, dual sided terminal lugs that make the difference. Biggest lugs I have seen and you dont have to contort yourself in order to get under the transformer to ensure that your wires are all into the proper spots.

    They also have a unique Low/Medium/High power switch, that when combined with their H2O (multi tap) transformers give you un-matched micro control of voltage outputs.

    The Modular control bay is another fantastic feature. I don't understand why more manufactures have not borrowed from this. The contractor can easily install or replace / upgrade the controls on board in the field. The options are many what with stand-alone and combinations that include photo cell, analog timer, digital timer, relay module, sprinkler control module, x10 module. With a bit of upgrading Im sure they could produce a UPB module too. ( I make my own using the modular control bay blank plate.) This feature alone is worth the price of admission.

    Another great feature is the on-board control over-ride switch. This simple toggle allows you to by-pass any installed control device and send power out to the system. Fantastic for service calls. Another unique feature as far as I know. Great for those times when a control has failed or programming is messed up and you want your client to have the lights on immediately.

    For a long time I was a fan of the S-series fustats that these transformers used for secondary output safety. But that was back in the incandescent days. The fustat is still a great diagnostic tool, but in all honesty, there is something to be said for magnetic breakers, especially when your customers are located far and wide and there is not a supply of Buss S-25 Fustats nearby.

    I think the NS Powercenter is still a great transformer, but it is probably due for an update. A switch to a torroid core, a door with hinges and a clasp, a UPB control module, a new smaller size (150 Watt) would be welcome.
  9. irrig8r

    irrig8r LawnSite Platinum Member
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    As I recall, they never stopped making a 150 W Powercenter. The module bay was a great innovation, but frankly I prefer the plug-in set up that I think FX was the first to use. The lugs on the FX are plenty big, especially considering there's a limit of 25 A per circuit. As I recall, they were also the first to offer multi-tap transformers.

    This year FX switched from an ETL listing to UL, which might mean they also meet the Canadian standards? They redesigned the way the cord enters the box and added a new closed in 120V compartment.
  10. shakyknees

    shakyknees LawnSite Member
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    I have a Nightscaping transformer (looks like a T-500) with a digital timer that I cannot identify. The printing rubbed off the programming instructions taped inside the box. website is no longer valid. Can you point me to programming instructions for the timer (or make other suggestions)? Thanks

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