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New 48-50in. walk behind?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Moretta Lawn Care, Apr 16, 2006.

  1. Moretta Lawn Care

    Moretta Lawn Care LawnSite Member
    Messages: 47

    I am looking to get a new 48-50in. walk behind. I have just recently picked up a few accounts where my Simplicity Pacer is taking me to long to mow them. I really would like to have something that is going to be dependable and last a long time. I have been told Scag, Wright, Walker, Toro, Snapper, etc. what in your opinion is "the walk behind".

  2. ThirdDay

    ThirdDay LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 442

    If you are looking to spend $3000 + Scag, Ferris, ExMark are 3 very good walk behind mowers!

    If you want to save some money, I have used a Red Hawk/Bradley mower for 2 years now with no problems at all. Very nice cut quality as well. They are around $2199 with a 48" deck 18 HP engine. According to their website you have a dealer in your area.

    Check them out.

  3. MysticLandscape

    MysticLandscape LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,020

    Wright and Walker are high priced mowers, but you get what you pay for.
  4. K&L Landscaping

    K&L Landscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 657

    I bleed John Deere green! However, the next walkbehinds I purchase will probably be eXmark Turf Tracer's. The ECS controls on the eXmark are far easier on the operator than the pistol grips found on John Deere and most other walkbehinds.
  5. MTR

    MTR LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Florida
    Messages: 1,280

    Is this WB your primary mower? If so, you need ECS or Z type control system on that walk, cause 8 hr a day, 5-6 days a week will have tremendous effects on your arms and hands. Pistol grip will KILL your hands.
    You should look at eXmark TTHP or Gravely prosteer hydro mowers.

    TURF DOCTOR LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,138

    Try a small ztr like a scag z-cat so easy and mowing alot you are not wore down.
  7. PaulJ

    PaulJ LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,774

    The best 48" and 54" in hydro WB are the hustler super wb mowers. They make a less expensive line also. but the supers have the largest tires the largfest engines larg air filter large frame and best controls of any WB on the market.

    TURF DOCTOR LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,138

    Define largest engines.
  9. MTR

    MTR LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Florida
    Messages: 1,280

    Paul, I heard Hustler just dropped production of super walk, do you know that? None of dealers of Hustler in my town ever carry them on their floor, what caused super walk downfall? I bet its price! Hustler priced their superwalk as high as its mini Z, and that is problem. There is no way super walk can compete with a Z unless every LCO is extremely skillful and competent and really in shape and willing to spend as much as buying a Z.
    Considering this fact, there is no way a walk can compete with rider.
  10. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 21,653

    Why, for 3000 dollars, would anyone opt for anything that doesn't have Toro's patented T-bar controls? They're not patented for no reason, they are patented because they are the only known design that considerably reduce operator fatigue (forearm pain, popeye arms that comes from using grips).

    The 48" is the largest deck that will fit through most 4-foot single gates. Very few single gates are over 4 feet wide, the 50" I've never heard of but I know the 52" will never fit through single gates except the ueber rare extra-wide ones. Of course, they both fit through double gates.

    However, Toro only makes the 48" as a fixed deck, and a fixed deck is a machine that involves a learning curve as the deck does not float but the frame and deck are all one big, solid piece. It takes practice and skill to cut with this machine, but the machine is a lot lighter than the floats so it gets stuck a lot less, tire spin is reduced, and it is faster and more accurate in the turns due to less moving parts. Also, the 48" is built like a tank, very few parts move around so when a bump is hit hard (such as when curbjumping) it is unusual to have springs and clips flying off the machine, unlike on a float deck the clatter and clank is also reduced on the fixed machine.

    Still, the float deck would be more of a learning machine, for someone who has never operated a wide deck mower, the float deck is considerably more forgiving of mistakes where the fixed deck has no game to it and will not tolerate nonsense, it is a matter of making this choice... There are some who try a fixed deck once and can not do it, but it takes 2-4 weeks to get over that hump and those who do make it never go back to floating decks. As a bonus, the fixed deck is a grand cheaper... Oh, and you need a 1-wheel velke because you can not walk a fixed deck in 5th gear, even in 4th it almost breaks your stride and why cut grass in 3rd gear on a machine built for 6-7 mph recycling.

    p.s.: For lawnguys, the fixed deck is to the float deck what a straight razor is to scissors for a barber.
    And much as only the true, professional barber can cut hair with a straight razor, the fixed deck cuts grass with the razor's edge.

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