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New addition to the business installas i am thinking of doing!

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by Hardscaping, Sep 12, 2008.

  1. Hardscaping

    Hardscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 359

    I have been thinking about this an looking for information on it, can't find much and i don't see much jobs being done like it around here.

    My idea is for interlock inlays into asphalt.

    Have any of you done this before? Got any suggestions towards the idea?

    My basic idea of the job layouts would be done on computer and then shown to the customer. If they then agree i would go ahead and install as follows.

    I would mark all areas to be cut and inlayed. The areas would then be cut with my 14 inch concrete saw with diamond blade for the long cuts. For the more complex cuts i am not sure what to use yet, maybe an angle grinder with 7 inch blade and a 4 inch blade obviously diamond tipped.

    I am going to look for a impact drill with a really good bit that i can use as basically a router for the outlines. I will also use a variety or sizes for chissels and a dead blow mallet. for touching the edges up.

    With the cut outs done i will be excavating down only enough to screed for sand and lay brick to correct height. So about 3 1\4 inches of excavation. then i will screed sand there and lay the interlock, then i would use polysand to seal the joints. Maybe once the bricks are layed i will cover the interlock and then seal the driveway to finish the look of a new driveway.

    A couple benefits i will sell the customer on is the fact of having design in a dull driveway making it stand out. The newly sealed driveway. When people extend there driveway they always have those ugly addition lines from adding new asphalt to old asphalt, This will allowed us to cut those lines out and do the inlay there, depending on the location and design of inlay.

    One thing though, is that people with ruts in the driveway i would want tostay away from as this can cause alot of problems.

    Ok so now you have my new idea so, go ahead pick it apart, let me know what i sould do differently.

    Especially in newer subdivisions where they got new asphalt just put down and they couldn't afford the interlock for the full driveway then this will be a slightly more affordable way to add design to their driveway. (while also adding alot of value to their house)
  2. csl

    csl LawnSite Member
    Messages: 235

    it sounds like a good idea. there are a few problems, and they fall within the work the guy before you has done. if the asphalt moves at all you are going to be in the middle of a pi$$ing match, and everyone is gonna point fingers. we laid a paver walkway between a retaining wall and parking lot, and there havent been any problems yet, but asphalt is a monolithic structure, where as pavers are not. good luck with it though.
  3. Hardscaping

    Hardscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 359

    I just found this when looking for inlay information maybe a good alternative to what i am thinking and to interlock and stamped.
    It is called clay mac or something street prints they basically do the same thing as stamped concrete but with asphalt.

    check it out.

  4. Hardscaping

    Hardscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 359

    to do the inlays of interlock i would have to charge a minimum charge of 13.50 per sq ft to cover the costs and labour as well as make some profit. so what i was thinking would be a good altrnative to an expensive driveway actually is not that much of a difference once they pay for the asphalt and the inlay they almost could be at the cost of a full interlock driveway. I am still going to look into this more and try a few bids on the idea for some customers.

    I guess it depends on the size of the inlay compared to the size of the driveway.
  5. shovelracer

    shovelracer LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,009

    Its been done before. Most common thing Ive seen is the installer does exactly what you said. Then it gets driven over and the edge pieces sink and the driveway eventually cracks. Blacktop and pavers distribute the weight differently which is why the driveway wont have a sufficient base for pavers in most cases.

    Hardscaping - you got some big ideas. Thats not a bad thing. You really need to get some education and start cutting your teeth on little projects though. One bad large project will run you into the ground real fast. Its been mentioned before, but again you need big bank rolls to take on big projects. Not just talking about supplies here. What happens when you make a mistake and its either fix for 15K out of your pocket or get sued and lose everything.

    Not that an inlay is a big project, but if it leads to replacing the blacktop than it could be.
  6. PatriotLandscape

    PatriotLandscape LawnSite Bronze Member
    from MA
    Messages: 1,209

    asphalt is on a much thinner base then pavers it doesn't work that simple.

    Asphalt dying and streetprints are garbage commercial projects.

    The transition between the concrete and ashpalt will only work well for a few months depending on traffic.

    It is different however if you are puring a new driveway you have much more control over your bases/transitions.
  7. Hardscaping

    Hardscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 359

    What if i put a concrete base under the pavers?
  8. shovelracer

    shovelracer LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,009

    Than you turn flexible pavement into a monolithic structure. You'd have to dig just about as deep, and it would cost more. Even if you dig the base out for your cut area you still have a problem with edge pieces based on the way the weight is distributed along the pavement.
  9. PatriotLandscape

    PatriotLandscape LawnSite Bronze Member
    from MA
    Messages: 1,209

    how deep is your frost line?

    Inlays are not new. I do believe you lay the pavers first then lay the asphalt.
  10. Hardscaping

    Hardscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 359

    3.5 feet i believe is the frost line here. so maybe putting the concrete wouldn't be a good idea.

    I think i will try it out on a couple driveways and see what it turns out like. I will warranty it really good. This way i will see if any effects of the method of the instal is. and know the way i can prevent those problems.

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