New here - Buying a mower tomorrow - need advice

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Lawn-Scapes, May 17, 2001.

  1. Lawn-Scapes

    Lawn-Scapes LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,810

    Hi all...

    I just found this site and glad I did! I'll go into detail about myself another day. Right now I need some mower buying advice. I'm leaning toward a 60" LazerZ. I stopped to check out a Grasshopper today and was impressed. But... The 61" deck won't fit in my trailer and it was $500 more. I can modify (cut) my trailer to fit it but it's a little inconvenient. The attractive thing about the Grasshopper was the financing... 7.25%. The Lazer is 14%.

    The prices:

    Lazer - $6999
    Grasshopper $7500

    My questions:

    Are these prices negotiable?
    What's the mark up on these things?
    Would I be equally happy with either of these machines?

  2. John DiMartino

    John DiMartino LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,555

    How much you putting down?At 14% interest the exmaerk will kill you in the pocket.That is the one I would want,but go out and get your own loan,save at least 4%,then compaer the #'s and see which is the better value,and factor in the dealers distance ,and service dept too,if you dont do your own work.
  3. 65hoss

    65hoss LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,360

    eXmark:blob3: eXmark:blob3: eXmark

    I have the Lazer HP and love it. The quality of cut is awesome. The machine is very high quality.
  4. lawnboy82

    lawnboy82 Banned
    Messages: 957

    i dont think that you can do much of a deal on these things. maybe if you go and buy a couple of them you can work something out. but the guys who i work for, they make 5 % on their machine sales. a turf tiger that sells for 10,000 they make 500 off of. however when you sell a couple of them a week it isnt that bad. you probably are better off goin to a bank or whatever. and if you want to negotiate i would say buy a good amount of other stuff too.

    CLARKE LawnSite Member
    Messages: 145

    I just two words and here there are DIXIE CHOPPER,
    Bought 1 last year and a nother this year. the nicer the
    lawn looks the more lawns you get, thats just the way
    it is.I love my choppers. CLARKE.....:cool:
  6. wuli60

    wuli60 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 5

    Go with the Grasshopper! Pricing is always negotiable! Would figure the margin in mowers(depending on where you are located)to be similar to a new car-say 10%...
    Not sure which model of Grasshopper you are looking at but anyone of them (with the possible exception of the 928) will hold a 52 inch deck and it will work supper, without time loss, on most every job and fit on your trailer! On anything in the one to two acre range the 52 will save you time!
    The new series deck grsshopper-now has- is a killer...Pay the extra money for the flip up deck and hydrolic lift...YOU WILL NOT BE DISSAPPOINTED!!!:blob3:
  7. wuli60

    wuli60 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 5

    I guess the old saying,"different strokes for different folks," has to apply to this machine but I have yet to see one that will dress turf the way a Grasshopper will do with its blade speed!!!
  8. Keith

    Keith LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,979

    Get the Exmark. I have a Grasshopper and a Kees ZTMax (almost an Exmark). The Grasshopper is a more complicated machine. The Kubota engine is top notch, but the pulley/powershaft/driveshaft/gearbox system eats power and cost more $ to maintain. Compare this to replacing a belt only. Grasshoppers are well built, I won't argue that. But the dealer/distributor and ultimately Grasshopper hung me out to dry in 1997. Their support sucks! I urge you to use the search feature on this board before you buy.

    As far as the high financing rate, thats up to the dealer. Transamerica and Sheffield both offer better rates than that. Don't believe everything the dealer tells you. Exmark doesn't finance, it's up to the dealer to let you know about the deals. Check here
  9. Lawn-Scapes

    Lawn-Scapes LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,810

    Thanks for the replies guys.

    The Grasshopper I am looking at is the 225-61 midmount deck. The Lazer is the LZ60.

    If I go with a smaller Grasshopper (52") will the 10" difference in deck size be huge in regard to cutting time? Should I get the optional 25hp Kohler over the 20hp Kohler for a 52" deck?

    If I went with the Lazer... Should I go with a 23hp Kawasaki or a 25hp Kohler?

    Thanks again!
  10. Island Lawn

    Island Lawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 632

    eXmark w/ kaw

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