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New House (Lawn Totally Neglected)

Discussion in 'Organic Lawn Care' started by Sooner09, Oct 16, 2008.

  1. Sooner09

    Sooner09 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 5

    Guys I just moved into this house built in 2001, and the "Lawn" is in horrible shape and I need some pointers on were to start with killing some weeds and restablishing the st.augustine that was once dominant there. Also eventually I would like to plant Saphire St.Augustine if anyone is familiar with it please let me know.Thanks. [​IMG]
  2. ICT Bill

    ICT Bill LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,115

    Hey Sooner
    Treegal on here has great experience with that type of St Augustine, I'm sure she'll chime in

    If you could get some of that under control the St Aug should out compete it pretty easily, looks like you need a total renovation for sure, how about starting with fire, get a weed torch

    some folks on here swer by a piece of equipment called an aeravator, I think it might be too big to get on that lawn though
  3. treegal1

    treegal1 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,911

    yes thats a total rip out and fresh start, what area are you in?? maybe its time to get away from st augie and get some empire sod, its a zoysia hybrid, it you are really set on SAG then....... me I like the palm beach SAG its got a better color and does not need as much chelation to start

    oh yes the start
    1) soil test!!!!! not a BS home depot test or a ag extension they are not worth much any ways we do ours in house or use the Umass test lab. its well worth the effort
    2) weed killer the whole yard!!! scythe pro herbicide for sure
    3) remove a layer of old dirt and weeds, this goes out or into a low spot or berm
    4) compost the yard and amend it to meet the soils needs
    5)fix the sprinklers
    6) lay sod, now if its a big yard or you dont want to pay so much for sod then skip lay the sod and or row lay it so it has some gaps in between the "tiles" of sod.
    top dress it after 6 months and that should be about all it needs other than some compost tea or worm casts 3-5 times a year, we have several refurbs that do fine with little on no effort to keep them weed free and happy

    here there are some pics I posted in this thread
  4. treegal1

    treegal1 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,911

    almost forgot

    save money and get more value from your home with native plants !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    organic palm beach sod 82$ per 500sq foot pallet, I got 500 acres ready to go !!!!! lets see some chem sod beat that !!!
  5. treegal1

    treegal1 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,911

    I am going to take a guess at the soil and weeds and all and say vero beach???? if I am wrong I will send you some worm casts.LOLOL
  6. muddstopper

    muddstopper LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,341

    If you plan on hireing the renovation work done, then ripping it out and starting over would be the quick fix. If you are planning on doing the work yourself, and are willing to wait a little while for the results, you have a much cheaper option. Start with mowing it short and removeing all clippings and other trash. Then purchase a plug puller to pull pluggs of your already exsisting St. Aug grass. Place the pluggs in the bare areas, they will fill in fairly fast. Since this is the organic forum, I'm not going to mention fertilizer, but a good soil test will help you choose the right organic amendments. Apply the amendments and turn on the irrigation. You wont get a full, new lawn overnite, but you will save a ton of money.
  7. treegal1

    treegal1 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,911

    mudd, while I almost always go with what you say, the sod plug-er is useless for SAG, IMO. we use a sprinkler head sod cuter, it takes out a nice 5 inch plug, that by the way fits in a post hole digger hole real nice, go deep and add some compost, in 3 weeks you will have little islands of green foot tall SAG

    side note I also like the Floratam 2E stuff that is coming out of miami and belle glade now
  8. Sooner09

    Sooner09 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 5

    Thanks guys and gals for your responses, Treegal1 actually I'm from the Central Texas area a city called Temple to be exact. But I'll check with the Mrs. and see what my budget is one way or another I'll have me a nice augustine lawn.
  9. treegal1

    treegal1 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,911

    cool just let me know when you want your worm casts. try some floritane in Tx its an older cultivar
  10. hunter

    hunter LawnSite Senior Member
    from Texas
    Messages: 254

    I've had better luck with Raleigh SAG than Floritane. It fights disease and SAD better than Floritane.

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