Ok. So after about 2 years looking at Magna Matic I finally pulled the trigger today. A few days ago I talked to Gerd on the phone, must have been for an hour. He answered all my questions and also a lot of information I had not thought of. What a pleasant person to deal with. He acted like I was the only task he needed to take care of that day. No pressure, just a great person, he obviously enjoys what he does. I went with the 8000 system, that way I have all the bases covered. I'm solo but I strive to have the best equipment available. Thanks to all that have posted your thoughts and experiences with the MM. It may be here on Friday........definitely looking forward to its arrival. Thanks Gerd.