I'm not a lighting pro, but I'm not a DIYer looking for free tips, either... I respect what's discussed and done here. If I eventually have enough funding to cover a real lighting job, I'll hire one of you. I have personal interests in archaic lighting tech, and I collect vintage light fixtures of all sorts. Few years ago, I found F. B. Nightingale's 1958 "Garden Lighting" book in a local library, and to my surprise (I had assumed it'd be impossible to find) the librarian found it on Amazon, and I soon had my own copy. It's really a fantastic book both from technical and historical standpoints. I understand that Bill Locklin invented and perfected the original low voltage systems, but it seems Nightingale began the idea of garden lights that blend into their surroundings... I'm fascinated by some of these fixtures, some using some technology that seems forgotten today in garden lighting, though some of it is a bit wild by today's standards. I'm curious as to whether anyone here has ever encountered any of Nightingale's unusual specialty fixtures. Electrical outlet hidden in artificial mushrooms. Lily and flower shaped lights, with flowers containing not only lights but electrical outlets, switches, and radio or telephone jacks, with a bud acting as a rotary switch (presumably connected to the switch in the junction box by flexible cable?). A potted cattail with a light inside the head (precursor to the Nightscaping Seegarliter, in a sense? I also see a light under a sundial and a kerosene lantern concealing a downlight, with a glowing "wick", which Nightscaping now sells as well). Getting more theatrical, I see moonlight effects with an eyeball fixture inside a solid housing, which slowly rotates downward to approximate moonlight rising from behind a house, or dimmed up from zero for a similar effect. A motorized switching device runs a handful of tiny lamps on thin black wires, to be hung in a tree to approximate fireflies (though I know other tech has been invented to do simpler firefly effects). My personal interest in lighting overlaps with interests in fountain technology. Nightingale mentions a "Colorscope", a submersible fixture containing multiple revolving color wheels which shift the light through a range of primary and pastel colors; using synchronous motors mean a number of these used together would all produce the same color at the same time. Motorized devices are offered that can turn water nozzles on and off using gears and rotary valves, or create geyser-like "flip" effects with faster pop valves; archaic and outdated by today's standards, yes, but fascinating. Another fixture, to be mounted under a down-pointed spotlight, consists of a bronze casting with two lenses held apart by a spring, the lower one drilled with holes to shower illuminated water drops. I don't think any of the above was just "what if" dreaming, either; I believe this was all produced and installed on very high-end jobs, as the book contains very tidy cuts that seem to have been catalog illustrations. Pardon the verbosity. Has anyone here ever happened upon any such archaic but imaginative, no-longer-manufactured Kim fixtures or effects? And, were I looking to hunt down one or two such things for my own interest, where might I look? Not like there's much of a market for 30-to-50-year-old, used outdoor lighting fixtures. I imagine there must be more than one big old Hollywood estate that still has a few (if I remember correctly, don't have the book handy at the moment, Nightingale was based in the Hollywood/LA area, and it stands to reason that some of these super specialty fixtures went into jobs for clients like Artur Rubenstein and Gary Cooper, whose gardens are pictured in the book) and yet, when they wear out, I figure most went in the trash. Or got forgotten and are still lurking around in the bushes somewhere, waiting for someone like me to find them and fix them up as bits of lighting history. I have another question regarding vintage landscape lighting fixtures, but I'll put that in a separate thread. No worries about me flooding the board with threads, either; before posting anything, I browsed the entire archives, looking for threads that answered other questions I had.