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New Mower Help

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by JCLawn and more, Sep 16, 2009.

  1. JCLawn and more

    JCLawn and more LawnSite Fanatic
    from MI
    Messages: 5,280

    The bottom line is I want a new ztr mower with a 60inch cut for no more than $6000 I am looking a bad boy from TSC a Toro Titan 6050 and a JD 465. The JD has a 25 hp Kawasaki, the Toro has a 26hp Kawasaki and the Badboy has a 25h Kohler. They all have 60in decks except the JD and it has a 62in. TSC said the badboy will do 9-12mph but the web site said it will do 7mph so I think TSC is giving me a line. The toro will do 7.5 mph and the JD will do 9mph. The toro has a fabricated 10 gauge deck from EXmark. Not sure on the badboy but its thick, and the JD is a 10 gauge stamped deck. All the JD's have stamped decks(even the commercial ones). The badboy and toro has a hydro gear pump/transmission and the JD has one commercial style pump with 2 wheel motors. the badboy is the cheapest at like $5300 and the JD is $6000

    The question is which should I buy? What would you guys buy and why? If anyone has any of these tell me how you like them.



  2. unkownfl

    unkownfl LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,837

    they all look like they are from home depot. I doubt those are the real manufacturers.
  3. birdman0494

    birdman0494 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 142

    Your price shouldnt be a defining factor, if I remember I was cutting st augistine 22/48 and at 4 inches and wot sometimes id bog down downsize your deck
  4. JCLawn and more

    JCLawn and more LawnSite Fanatic
    from MI
    Messages: 5,280

    normally I would have to agree but toro and Badboy does not outsource. The JD looks way better in person and the components are beefy. You all must remember that I am using a toro Time cutter 17/42Z(cheap mower) that I put up to 30 hours a week on and that thing has about 1000hrs on it if not more. I can still beat most any professional company in our area as far as cut wise with the stupid thing. I can not justify going out to buy something $9000-$17000. This is only my first year of mowing! I also have to finance whatever I get, but if it is $6,000 then I can pay it off in one year and then get something else the next if I have problems.
  5. JCLawn and more

    JCLawn and more LawnSite Fanatic
    from MI
    Messages: 5,280

    what mower was that? I drove a brush hog that did 10mph and had a 25hp motor and thing did a perfect cut, bit I admit it did bog down. I don't do tall stuff all that often. I have mowed stuff over 4foot high with my 17/42z(had to go over it twice though)
  6. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 21,653

    Why not consider a walker instead?
  7. JCLawn and more

    JCLawn and more LawnSite Fanatic
    from MI
    Messages: 5,280

    would you mow up to 7 acres with a walk behind? one 7 and 6 and one 5. those are my biggest lawns.
  8. dplawn

    dplawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 382

    Those are all residential mowers. They are not going to be as rigid and tough and as long lasting as a commercial mower. I have JD equipment and love my stuff. If you are not wanting to spend more than 6000 then why not get a good low hour commercial mower that will last you a while.
  9. McFarland_Lawn_Care

    McFarland_Lawn_Care LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,443

    JCLawn - I would purchase a good condition used commercial mower if I were you. There are a LOT of them that people are selling this time of year when they quit mowing lawns on the side. Check local classifieds and Craigslist....lots of good deals and you'll be better off in the long run.

    MS_SURVEYOR LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,002

    I'm a Bad Boy Pup owner. I looked at the ZT series hard. I did not like the engines. But ease of maintenance was great. The Toro was ok. Good looking mower. Hard to do maintenance because everything was hard to get to. I didn't look at the EZtrak Z465. But I did the EZtrak Z445. There was a lot I liked. Ease of maintenance was good. In fact I liked the way JD turned the engine so the oil filter was hanging behind the mower so getting oil all over the mower wasn't going to be a problem. I really liked the 9 gauge 54-inch Edge™ High Capacity deck. JD's get high marks here for their mow. The Z465 and Z445 share the same engine. The Z465 is 0.5 mph faster. I didn't like the air filter systems on any of the listed mowers.

    I have found looking at ease of maintenance, engines, deck, service, then price works best for me.


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