New Next Lazer Z 34 KAW versus Lazer Z XS 35 BVG

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by timber132007, Apr 23, 2009.

  1. timber132007

    timber132007 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 194

    I own two 72" Lazer Z XS mowers with 35 BVG and took delivery of a 72" Next Lazer Z with a 34hp Kawasaki engine yesterday. I ordered the Next Lazer Z back in early February and had been anxiously awaiting its arrival to see how it stacked up against my XS mowers with 35 BVGs.

    I was concerned about whether I should have purchased another Lazer Z XS being that they are still offered or try the new design. All I can say at this point is that I have absolutely no regrets.

    I've read a lot of negative posts about dislikes with the Next Lazer design and the company moving away from something that was proven. I own four Exmarks total not including the new Next Lazer and I can honestly say that I think they have made an improvement with this machine.

    The drive system is as smooth as can be with no whining pump noises to be heard. The seat is super comfortable for normal mowing conditions but in super bumpy conditions it would be a toss up between the new seat and the Michigan full suspension seat.

    The top speed for the Next Lazer Z that I purchased was supposed to be 11.5 mph but I think it is faster than that. I had one of my employees line up beside me with him on a Lazer Z XS with 35 BVG and me on the Next Lazer Z to see which was faster. The top speed for the XS is supposed to be 12mph. When we both took off my casters came off the ground to the point that the back end of the machine bumped the ground. I pulled ahead of him right off the get go and stayed ahead of him. The Next Lazer is a little faster than the XS from what I've seen. Its not 15 mph but its in the 12.5-13mph range. To say the new hydro design is responsive would be putting it lightly. The power is there when you want it but its not jerky its very smooth.

    The thing I was most curious about in comparing them was engine power. At this point I give the nod to the 34hp Kawi. On paper it has more torque than the 35 BVG but I wanted to see how it was in the field. When you have the throttle up all the way on the 34hp with the PTO engaged it is an awesome sound. I haven't cut anything really thick yet with the Next Lazer but when I do I will post the results of how it does with the Ultracut 6 against the 35 BVG with the Triton. I have however mowed around some really large live oak trees with a lot of leaves accumulated on the ground. We mow in a circular pattern around the trees blowing the leaves toward the trees. It moved a substantial volume of leaves and the engine didn't even show a hint of wanting to bog or lose rpms.

    The cut quality I would say is what most have come to expect from the Exmark Ultracuts of the past. I've never had issues with the Triton deck but we cut warm season grass at low heights in my neck of the woods.

    I haven't put enough hours on it to give fuel consumption numbers yet but I will later. I do wish the tank had a little more capacity than 12 gallons. If the hydro system proves to be reliable and the machine overall is as durable as my older Exmarks I will be extremely happy. In my opinion Exmark will be at the cutting edge of innovation if this new design proves to be reliable and durable like the original design.
  2. tacoma200

    tacoma200 LawnSite Fanatic
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    I hope your right, please keep us updated. I think the low center of gravity is more than a fair trade for slightly less fuel capacity. I really liked my Exmarks it's just I'm mowing in rough, wet, or steep conditions more than manicured lawns. I noticed that I was unconsciously always grabbing the Scag because I didn't want to deal with clumps or scraping the deck in these conditions. I would love to test a new Exmark for the Summer but I'm sure I would go back to orange because of the deck and steepness of area's I cut.
  3. joslawn33

    joslawn33 LawnSite Member
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    Talking about no clumps or scraping, I bought a new 830 John Deere 27hp kawi lots power & torque wet thick treated yards & no clumps.
  4. puppypaws

    puppypaws LawnSite Fanatic
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    This is the kind of post I like to read, true hard facts from a person with experience of both mowers being compared. Bring us all the information you gather.
  5. timber132007

    timber132007 LawnSite Member
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    I've read a lot of good things about Scag mowers but have never run one and the closest Scag dealer to me is an hour away which isn't an option. I live in the lower part of South Carolina and it is as flat as a pool table so center of gravity isn't a big factor for me other than ditch banks. I am keeping my fingers crossed on the new hydro system. With the XS mowers I can run all day and not have to top off. If the 34hp Kawi fuel consumption is close to the 35 BVG I'll have to take a gas can to top off at lunch time to make it through the day. Not a big deal just a little inconvenience.
  6. timber132007

    timber132007 LawnSite Member
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    Will do in the coming weeks.
  7. tacoma200

    tacoma200 LawnSite Fanatic
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    I really wish you and Exmark great luck with the new Lazer. Yes I have to have a bush hog, billy goat (for holding hills), and something to cut the wet overgrown Spring growth with out clumping so my situation is much different. If I only had smooth, level, lots I would have used the Exmark much more because it did leave a smooth cut.

    I'm looking forward to your updates, what are they selling for with the big Kaw?
  8. timber132007

    timber132007 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 194

    $10,990 for the 72" with 34 Kawi. My employee was mowing behind me and couldn't get over the roaring sound following. He said it sounded powerful. I can't wait to try it in taller thick grass.
  9. GravelyGuy

    GravelyGuy LawnSite Silver Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 2,548

    Maybe I just need to get used to the hydros being so responsive. Mine was jerky during the demo.
  10. tacoma200

    tacoma200 LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,426

    My 05 seemed jerky to many but after you adjust to it you realize it is just very responsive. Then again it is a lot easier to keep a strait line when they are not so responsive. I would hit a bump trying to stripe with the Lazer and put a crook in it. But great for smaller area's.

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