I just discovered this site after midnight last night and couldn't leave it for about the next 3 hrs. So of course after checking out some of the post or threads as you call 'em here ,I just had to join. This SITE is truly a gift from the Great Grass God from up above. My name is John, I'm from the Frankenmuth-Sag. area here in mid Michigan. and want to get started in the mowing business. Brief history:Born and raised on a farm from the Thumb area of Mi. worked pretty hard most all my life and definitely not afraid of more. After the service, drove Michigan gravel trains for about 20 yrs. off and on. Being 54 found it to be a job better done by the younger gen. too much mental stress. Back in the early 70's it was a lot of fun to drive those big rigs, but now with all the regs. and rules and not that much pay for the responsibility that went with the job, the fun went out of it. Also had my own farm tiling and drainage business for 10 years, from 1976-1986. Did fairly well 'till the floods of 1985 came along, you'd think with all the rain we had in the fall of 85 there would have been a lot of work the following season, but it hurt my customers the- american farmer- the hardest and of course many couldn't afford to tile the next season. that's when that great outdoor occupation ended for me. So it was back to trucking. Till now and am willing able to start again. Can't keep a good man down. Have most all good equipment to start business, need help and info on billing and charging rates for the mid Mi. area. Thank you all for having me aboard and hope I can assist you good people with anything that might be of interest to you's. The oleduke fo Sag.