New Pondless Waterfall we did.

Discussion in 'Water Features' started by JimLewis, Jun 8, 2005.

  1. Dirty Water

    Dirty Water LawnSite Fanatic
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    There must have been quite a bit of slope on that yard, its really hard to tell though, because at first glance it looked like you raised the yard behind the retaining wall :)

    I kinda liked the privacy that the old hedge's gave, but your landscape is definitly an improvement :)
  2. JimLewis

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    Yah, the privacy was nice. We miss it a little. But the landscape was boring. And I'm trying to establish our company as one of the premeir landscaping companies in the area. And I didn't really have a very showy landscape. Many of the other top landscapers already DO. I think people around here kind of judge your work by your own landscape. So I had to set the standard. Since we did it, we get nothing but compliments. People drive by every day and tell us how much better it looks. Many of them ask for a card and I've even got 4-5 calls from it. So I guess it worked.

    DUSTYCEDAR LawnSite Fanatic
    from PA
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    i wish they had the pondless system when i built my pond
    the pond is a pain sometimes to take care of but i like the fish
    but if i had to do it over again no pond just the waterfall
  4. Dirty Water

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    What do you think you've invested total into the landscape? I get asked to do landscape jobs on the side all the time, and I'm trying to get an idea how to price things.
  5. vtx1300

    vtx1300 LawnSite Member
    from OKC,OK
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    Jim... nice job. Very nice.

    SONSCAPES LawnSite Member
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    jim,nice waterfeature! i will be doing my 1st pondless next week. really excited pondless is definetly the way to go.btw appreciate all the informative posts they help out alot to a guy who only has a few years in the biz. :waving:
  7. JimLewis

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    I think I've got approx. $11962.50 invested in the landscape. And a lot of that I got at less than wholesale. If you're really interested in the exact breakdown, I could send you the breakdown via email if you want. It's in an MS Excel File - a list of all the expenses. (

    I also saved a lot of money in labor by having friends and family help out. It would have been a lot more had I paid my workers to do it all. Fortunately, a lot of family members owed me from me doing landscape work for them at cost. So it was payback time. It was a long, sweaty, 3-day weekend with some 14 hour days in there.
  8. JimLewis

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    Thanks everyone for the compliments. The pictures really don't do it justice though. The landscape looks so much better in person than it does in those pictures.

    Also, I haven't figured out how to take a good picture of the night lighting. But the landscape at night is almost more impressive than it is during the day. We have installed 35 lights (over 700w total!) all over the landscape. Every big tree or focal point is lit up with one or two spotlights or well lights. The waterfall is lit up with 4 spotlights and an underwater light under the top waterfall. Pathway lights on both sides of the driveway and down the pathway that goes down the side of my house. Down spotlights on the columns by the front door. The smaller bubbler rock water feature by the front door is lit up too. It looks like Disneyland every night from 9:30 p.m. to 1:00 a.m. I think I enjoy the landscape more at night than I do during the day.

    I'm glad it's all over. Now we just get to enjoy it.
  9. Dirty Water

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    Did you use the frog lights LED lighting? At $60 a pop I can imagine that would add up fast :)
  10. JimLewis

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    I have never heard of that. What are frog lights?

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