spray along the fence line and explain to the HO that this is the only option otherwise damage to the fence will occur which you will not accept liability for,I'm not talking about spraying a foot or more from the fence only a couple of inches so you can if need be still trim close but not need to actually hit the fence

 

Ya, don't hit that fence with a trimmer. They practically explode. Spray about 2 inches wide along the length of the fence or sell them some kind of paver edging.

 

I use 41-51% glyphosphate concentrate and mix with water in my sprayer and that will do the trick. Make sure to spray as narrowly as possible as it will kill anything within 12" of where the spray actually hits.

 

perfect! thank you guys!

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I use 41-51% glyphosphate concentrate and mix with water in my sprayer and that will do the trick. Make sure to spray as narrowly as possible as it will kill anything within 12" of where the spray actually hits.

that's not true. it only kills where you spray it. i spray around things all the time a couple of inches. it doesn't extend out 12". :laugh:

 

that's not true. it only kills where you spray it. i spray around things all the time a couple of inches. it doesn't extend out 12". :laugh:

Exactly. If it kills 12" from where you sprayed its because it was sprayed and you didn't think you did.

 

that's not true. it only kills where you spray it. i spray around things all the time a couple of inches. it doesn't extend out 12". :laugh:

I can't hardly think of a place where I have sprayed over the years it doesn't extend out at least 6 inches. As a matter of fact I told a worker a couple weeks ago the same thing, he didn't listen and where he sprayed right against a brick wall it killed the grass almost 18" out into the yard. Now it may be because I have it mixed very strong or maybe damp soil helping to spread it out further than the intended range...I don't know. All I know is when I have to get it really tight I make sure it almost comes out as a stream and do it very lightly. I would have to check the plastic cup I use but I think I am using close to 4oz per gallon in all of my 4 gallon sprayers.

 

Exactly. If it kills 12" from where you sprayed its because it was sprayed and you didn't think you did.

Now that is very possible. Most of the time I spray I do use a fine mist. I usually only spray in the spring and fall. It seems to kill everything for at least 2-3 months.

 

good info thanks guys I will try roundup concentrate mixed with a little more water then as specified to kill weeds and try that, it's an experiment I will see if that works as a growth regulator.

 

I just use normal strength glypho for my spraying if you go strong strength then it only takes a little bit of spray drift to kill something further out than you intend
my math may be out and i apologize for metrics but my calculation says if you have 1 milliliter of normal strength spray (7.2gm/lt) compared to glypho360 at 50% mix the difference is the same as 50milliliters of spray on these plants 50 times as much so a small amount of spray drift could cause damage

 

good info thanks guys I will try roundup concentrate mixed with a little more water then as specified to kill weeds and try that, it's an experiment I will see if that works as a growth regulator.

You realize you need to be licensed to do this, right?

Also, glyphosate trans locates back through the plant which in the case of certain grasses it will kill back more than the spray actually contacts creating a ragged line. Also when you kill out an area and create bare ground other sorts of weeds tend to come up that are worse than just grass.

The customer needs to understand anytime they put up objects there needs to be an additional charge as it takes extra effort/time to trim around.

 

Another thing to think about is try to keep the pressure on your hand tank low, don't pump it up much. Lower pressure creates larger droplets which drift much less.

 

I spray fences, trailer houses, and around everything else that i don't want to tear up with a trimmer or any thing that needs grass kept down and has rocks around it like driveways. It will look boot legged but get a small bottle like a 2 ounce 2 stroke oil bottle, cut the bottom out of it and tape it to the end of the sprayer to make it a hood. That way no matter the wind or what you can just drag it where you want it with out wind drift, or over spray. it's a bout an inch and a half wide,looks clean with perfect straight lines and give you plenty of room to mow up beside it even if you Have to trim around it there should be no reason to hit the fence or anything for thst matter. And with a small hood it's not even noticeable. And on fences only spray around the poles except on cattle fences that go all the way to ground it looks way cleaner when you hang the deck under the fence and cut it vs a big dead line the length of the fence for no reason.

 

Exactly. If it kills 12" from where you sprayed its because it was sprayed and you didn't think you did.

No, not always.

Those of us who use heavier concentrations will find that when it rains (or with irrigation systems) the water coming down can further dilute the mixture that's been sprayed, and spread it out. Especially if you spray every time you're there, and if you lay it down heavy or use a heavy dilution ratio. It's a formula with more than one angle, how heavy you mix it one, how thick you lay it down two, and then lay of the land and rainfall and how often you spray too.

So you can do it either way but I would keep an eye on it, you probably don't have to spray every visit (I almost never do) and IF it starts to spread you'll want to lighten up a little.

 

No, not always.

Those of us who use heavier concentrations will find that when it rains (or with irrigation systems) the water coming down can further dilute the mixture that's been sprayed, and spread it out. Especially if you spray every time you're there, and if you lay it down heavy or use a heavy dilution ratio. It's a formula with more than one angle, how heavy you mix it one, how thick you lay it down two, and then lay of the land and rainfall and how often you spray too.

So you can do it either way but I would keep an eye on it, you probably don't have to spray every visit (I almost never do) and IF it starts to spread you'll want to lighten up a little.

Yeah....that is what I figured. I know after a couple of applications the soil will become so saturated with the glyphosphate that the entire area will just be dirt after a little while.

 

Yeah....that is what I figured. I know after a couple of applications the soil will become so saturated with the glyphosphate that the entire area will just be dirt after a little while.

Glyphosate does not have soil activity.

Many of the replies indicate the lack of knowledge about herbicides. A good example of why those who are not properly licensed should not be using them.

 

Glyphosate does not have soil activity.

Many of the replies indicate the lack of knowledge about herbicides. A good example of why those who are not properly licensed should not be using them.

True but I can only comment on what I see after spraying myself. For example....there is grass in a spot, I spray, grass is now dead 6-12" from where I spray so I assume it has to do with the spraying I did. So I guess it could be because the mist is actually hitting spots that I am not noticing. So now I just tell people where I spray it will actually kill off everything within 6-12" just to be safe and they know what to expect.

 

I just use normal strength glypho for my spraying if you go strong strength then it only takes a little bit of spray drift to kill something further out than you intend
my math may be out and i apologize for metrics but my calculation says if you have 1 milliliter of normal strength spray (7.2gm/lt) compared to glypho360 at 50% mix the difference is the same as 50milliliters of spray on these plants 50 times as much so a small amount of spray drift could cause damage

I would go weaker then what they call for and run an experiment in a inconspicuous spot.

You realize you need to be licensed to do this, right?

Also, glyphosate trans locates back through the plant which in the case of certain grasses it will kill back more than the spray actually contacts creating a ragged line. Also when you kill out an area and create bare ground other sorts of weeds tend to come up that are worse than just grass.

The customer needs to understand anytime they put up objects there needs to be an additional charge as it takes extra effort/time to trim around.

true that, why i don't want to kill the grass. maybe ill just tell the h.o. I'm going to put some edging of some sort in.

I was at the customers last year but not doing weekly cuts. This spring, I was working 2 doors down and he approached me and I made a deal site unseen. He told me last year, he planned to put vinyl fencing in, but I forgot. :laugh:

Another thing to think about is try to keep the pressure on your hand tank low, don't pump it up much. Lower pressure creates larger droplets which drift much less.

nice suggestion, thanks!

I spray fences, trailer houses, and around everything else that i don't want to tear up with a trimmer or any thing that needs grass kept down and has rocks around it like driveways. It will look boot legged but get a small bottle like a 2 ounce 2 stroke oil bottle, cut the bottom out of it and tape it to the end of the sprayer to make it a hood. That way no matter the wind or what you can just drag it where you want it with out wind drift, or over spray. it's a bout an inch and a half wide,looks clean with perfect straight lines and give you plenty of room to mow up beside it even if you Have to trim around it there should be no reason to hit the fence or anything for thst matter. And with a small hood it's not even noticeable. And on fences only spray around the poles except on cattle fences that go all the way to ground it looks way cleaner when you hang the deck under the fence and cut it vs a big dead line the length of the fence for no reason.

good idea!
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what about different tips, can I screw a pro quality tip on to a consumer quality sprayer? i don't usually do spraying, since I'm not licenced for it, I have someone else do it. On checking the regulations, and I will still make a phone call it seems even the roundup they sell to anyone in any store can only be used privately by someone at their own home.

what about weed and feed (spreader kind) doesn't that have herbicides in it? can I still use consumer grade like liquid 2-4d formulas like killex?

I want to get my licence, though herbicide is a last resort for me always.

KEEP IT GREEN

 

I would go weaker then what they call for and run an experiment in a inconspicuous spot.

true that, why i don't want to kill the grass. maybe ill just tell the h.o. I'm going to put some edging of some sort in.

I was at the customers last year but not doing weekly cuts. This spring, I was working 2 doors down and he approached me and I made a deal site unseen. He told me last year, he planned to put vinyl fencing in, but I forgot. :laugh:

nice suggestion, thanks!

good idea!
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what about different tips, can I screw a pro quality tip on to a consumer quality sprayer? i don't usually do spraying, since I'm not licenced for it, I have someone else do it. On checking the regulations, and I will still make a phone call it seems even the roundup they sell to anyone in any store can only be used privately by someone at their own home.

what about weed and feed (spreader kind) doesn't that have herbicides in it? can I still use consumer grade like liquid 2-4d formulas like killex?

I want to get my licence, though herbicide is a last resort for me always.

KEEP IT GREEN

Weed n feed is a fertilizer coated in a herbicide, 24D also, can't use on customers lawn.

An analogy that may make sense to you is you can buy and give yourself any number of medicines but you can't give or subscribe them to others.

 

True but I can only comment on what I see after spraying myself. For example....there is grass in a spot, I spray, grass is now dead 6-12" from where I spray so I assume it has to do with the spraying I did. So I guess it could be because the mist is actually hitting spots that I am not noticing. So now I just tell people where I spray it will actually kill off everything within 6-12" just to be safe and they know what to expect.

The glyphosate is trans locating back through the grass and that may be why you see more killed than you think you spray. And it could be drift is hitting more than you think.

 

The glyphosate is trans locating back through the grass and that may be why you see more killed than you think you spray. And it could be drift is hitting more than you think.

Yeah...I believe you are right.

 

Why are you worried about trimming the fence? I'm pretty new, but I have several weekly accounts with vinyl that I trim. I usually only have to run my little echo srm225 at 1/4 throttle to clean up the fence line.
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better to be safe than sorry i always say!

 

About the only reason it would spread 12" from where it was sprayed. Would be a tip set on mist or spraying a long stream from like a tank sprayer while riding. I spray one inch wide strips all the time with or without the hood. But then again I spray miles of fences and get a lot of practice.
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Now that is very possible. Most of the time I spray I do use a fine mist. I usually only spray in the spring and fall. It seems to kill everything for at least 2-3 months.

There's your problem.....

if the head of your sprayer is set for cone (mist) then you'll be killing everything the cone falls in...

there are different settings on your sprayer for a reason.

I'm guessing you don't have a license for spraying?