Newb purchase / 30" or 36" / can we negotiate ?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing Equipment' started by mdvaden, May 9, 2013.

  1. mdvaden

    mdvaden LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,946

    If you see my website, it's evident I do mostly pruning and landscape modifications ... not mowing. I have a background from golf courses, but skipped mowing until now. Someone with a big property is nudging me to do maintenance for them. And I am semi-clueless about mower purchases. They have about 3/4 an acre of lawn. Which I'm judging to be a bit big for just getting two 21" mowers for. My first question ...

    1. Is there room to negotiate mower prices?

    Let me put it this way. At a Stark Street power equipment place in Sherwood, Oregon, I was looking at a 36" Exmark similar to the one in this link ... and the man ball-parked the price near $5000 ... did not write the specific model, but it's hydraulic steered, walk behind and 36"

    2. Would 2 of the newer 30" Exmark or Toro mowers be a feasible option for a lawn that size?

    I was considering 2 of the 30" units, tagged about $1800 each, plus either a commercial 21" or a decent consumer grade 21" Honda for the fringes.

    Odds are that I'd then seek a 2nd maintenance customer, but not sure beyond that at present.
  2. kawakx125

    kawakx125 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,130

    right now i do all residential, and of the 7 lawns i mowed yesterday evening, i pulled my 36'' off the trailer once. the rest was my 52''. depending on if there is a fence, look around for a walk behind 52 on craigslist or something.
  3. Exmark PR

    Exmark PR Sponsor
    Messages: 238

    Please double check the model number you were quoted as the Metros (attached link) are gear driven – not hydro driven (which would be our Viking) explaining the pricing difference.
  4. Boaz

    Boaz LawnSite Member
    from Georgia
    Messages: 86

    Sounds like they priced you a Turf Tracer 36" walk behind. That was my first mower and it is perfect for small residencial yards, clean outs and hard to get areas. I hate having to drag around an extra mower now because my trailer is cramped but there isn't a day go by that I am not glad I have a 36" mower on the truck. My 48" Lazer Z can only get into so many places and some of the older homes have small gates and that is where the 36" Turf Tracer shines. I have a mulch kit on mine and a jungle jim sulky and you can really haul ass and cut some grass with it. You can't go wrong with a 36" TT in my opinion.
  5. Blade Runners

    Blade Runners LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,021

    I would get a 36" Hydro WB with sulky. Much more productive than a 30" push mower.
  6. mdvaden

    mdvaden LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,946

    Thanks for the feedback so far.

    I had a chance to measure the lawn today. On Google Earth last night, I approximated 19,000 square feet.

    It appears to be closer to 16,000 square feet of area.

    I'm still interested whether mower prices are negotiable with a dealer, in the same manner that automobile prices can be negotiable.

  7. lawnkingforever

    lawnkingforever LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,280

    I just purchased a new mower a few weeks ago and from my experience dealers are more willing to negotiate if you have cash and the mower is already on site. The best deal I found on the toro 30" was $1600 cash out the door. The dealer was fairly large and had many of them ready for purchase. Now if the dealer has to order the mower and you are financing dont expect much wiggle room.
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  8. weesa20

    weesa20 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 169

    No wiggle room on the Ex 30 when i got mine, dealer couldn't keep them on the floor...I did find the Toro Turfmaster for 100 less tho but i like my dealer and i would have spent the difference in time and travel going to the other dealer...only a little wiggle room on the Ex TT36 b/c he would have had to order it.
  9. ztman

    ztman LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,115

    Everything is negotiable, but I would be more interested in buying from a reputable dealer who has experienced/responsive mechanics and a good supply of parts. The few bucks you save up front may cost you in the long run if you just buy on price. Big question I always want an answer to from a dealer, is do you have loaner mowers.
  10. Blade Runners

    Blade Runners LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,021

    Call around to different dealers. I have found that prices varied considerably from dealer to dealer.

    Just to give you an idea for mowers...In the past we would load out a 52" stander, 36" WB/sulky and a 21" push. Now the 21" doesn't even get loaded on the trailer. There is nothing we can't cut with the 36". It will cut steep hills and ditches when you raise the sulky and walk behind it or you can drop the sulky and ride @ 7+ mph in open areas. This makes for a very versatile and productive mower on smaller properties. It's fairly light and compact compared to our other mowers and it can cut tall overgrown fields or leave a very nice cut on treated, well-kept properties. If you decide to expand in the future and take on larger properties, all you would need to do is add a 52 or 61 Stander or ZTR and you are set. Don't forget a stick edger and commercial line trimmer.

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