Nissan Titan to get Cummins Diesel

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by gob71, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. Bautieri

    Bautieri LawnSite Member
    Messages: 28

    Regarding diesels in half tons:

    On one hand I think the idea is awesome. On the other, I can't figure out why someone would want a diesel half ton. I know, I know, torque and mpgs. The gas power plants currently offered in the half ton markets can already far exceed the design capacity of the vehicle, the temptation to not overload the half ton platform "just because I can" must be overwhelming. I think that is the main reason Dodge is putting a smaller diesel in their half tons vs the larger one in the Titan. Even the point about MPGs is somewhat moot. Local markets vary, but diesel is currently 60 cents more per gallon than 87 at the gas station I drive by every morning. That's almost a 20% difference. If the truck gets 25% better mpg (which may or may not be optimistic), you're looking at saving a whole 5% per mile. 20mpg in a gasser (at 3.45) is 17 cents per mile, 25 mpg in a diesel (at 3.99) is 16 cents per mile. A difference of one whole penny. What will this engine option cost? 5-7k? Your break even point in fuel savings will fall somewhere between 50,000 to 70,000 miles, but that doesn't factor the more expensive oil changes (even DIY) and repair bills.

    All in all, I just can't wrap my head around a diesel half ton. Either from a practical, or a fiscal sense. If you need a truck to tow with better road manners, you need 3/4 or a 1 ton with a heavier frame, better tranny, axles, suspension, and brakes.

    I predict the diesel half ton will sell a butt load at first, then tank.
  2. austins35

    austins35 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 90

    check other markets

    Nissan Patrol (diesel) is an amazing vehicle

    Toyota markets Diesel trucks in quite a few other markets

    I personally Blame Al Gore for the EPA's emissions silliness, and global warming hog wash:):dancing::clapping::dizzy::cry::laugh:
  3. Grant11

    Grant11 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 358

    I don't think this Nissan/ Cummins half ton is going to be that great. This is the first I've ever heard of Cummins making a V8.. ever.

    All your math and reasoning is correct but what gasser gets 20 mpg? I'm getting 9 mpg in my 1500. A few of my buddies in their diesels get around 25. Diesel fuel may cost more but at over double (more like 2.5x) better mpg diesel is way cheaper to run than gas.
  4. JDGlandscape

    JDGlandscape LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 514

    true, i dont know of any 1500s that get better than 17mpg.
  5. Dually00-00

    Dually00-00 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 181

    My one ton gasser gets 18 mpg hwy running hills.
  6. ecurbthims

    ecurbthims LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 493

    I have several 1500 gassers in the low twenties everyday .
  7. KCMO95

    KCMO95 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 66

    Those three letters- EPA- are the reason that the majority of trucks on the road aren't diesel. The whole thing about diesel gets me irritated. There's no reason it should cost more than gas.
  8. JCLawn and more

    JCLawn and more LawnSite Fanatic
    from MI
    Messages: 5,281

    Your in canda. Sure its not KM? Also I can't believe they are not sticking with a straight 6 or a stright 4. I would not want to buy the first few years, that's forsure.
  9. ecurbthims

    ecurbthims LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 493

    I have calculated it in miles ,and using the American Gallon which is smaller than an Imperial one .
  10. JCLawn and more

    JCLawn and more LawnSite Fanatic
    from MI
    Messages: 5,281

    Do you have ethonal in your fuel also?

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