No Lesco Near Me

Discussion in 'Starting a Lawn Care Business' started by Green-Cuts, Mar 27, 2006.

  1. Green-Cuts

    Green-Cuts LawnSite Member
    Messages: 154


    I was told that lesco was a good place to get fertilizer but there is not a store in my area. Is there any other place that you can by fertilizer at a contractors price?

  2. ed2hess

    ed2hess LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,682

    Home Depot sells Lesco close to the same price we get it at Lesco.
  3. Green-Cuts

    Green-Cuts LawnSite Member
    Messages: 154

    How much do most of you charge for fertilizer and the application o apply it.
  4. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 21,653

    Here's methods I use (depending on situation):
    Minimum: 50 dollars + cost of supplies

    More than 1 job? Good, combine the trip to Home Depot and pick up all the stuff for everybody. This is my favorite because I charge each customer 15 dollars for delivery and I try to get 3 or more (my goal is 30 / delivery, with 2 customers I break even, with 3 I get 45 dollars for the same trip to Home Depot).

    If it's just one job, 20 dollars for delivery (but I prefer 3+ at 15 each, even 2 is cool at 15 each it feels more even).
    Yes, in this case I'd rather get 30 dollars (total) for 2 customers than 20 dollars for 1 customer.
    Plus cost of supplies.

    Then, 50 dollars / hour to spread, and here's my math:
    If I bust tail, I can spread 2 bags every 5 minutes, so I charge about 2 dollars / bag for spreading.

    Wait... That's 60 / 5 = 12 x 2 = 24 x 2 = 48 dollars hour, ok close enough, 2 dollars / bag to spread.

    Now if I only get a few bags of stuff and I get it all spread out in like 15 minutes or so, I feel bad about charging 50 + 20 delivery and might give a break but always minimum 50 (no less than 50 for labor + delivery).

    At the same rate, if it's 14 bags of stuff and it takes me 35 minutes to spread it, I'm quick to charge 50 labor + 20 delivery + cost of supplies because that's 560 pounds of material I have to load onto a cart, then load into the trailer and finally unload it into my spreader - I just humped 1680 pounds of material, not to mention pushing it out through the yard.
  5. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 21,653

    For fertilizer, here's some simple stuff I use:

    For starter ferts, $4.50 for 10-10-10, 6 bags / acre (so 2 / quarter and third, 3 for half, etc).
    For regular fert, $5.50 for Super 16-4-8, also 6 / acre.
    Careful, Super16 is a 33 pound bag, not 40 - But pound for pound and dollar for dollar, super16 is better than 10-10-10 for anything except seed starter.

    You can go 8 bags / acre but you start to risk burning the lawn. One bag covers 5k sq. feet, but I take no chances.

    Anytime I fertilize, I ALWAYS spread an equal amount of lime (so if 4 bags of fert, then 4 bags of lime also) because the use of lime literally doubles the effect of the fertilizer at a cost of $3.50 per bag of lime +2 to spread: on an acre lot, 35 dollars doubles the effect.
    (yes, 35 dollars = supplies + labor, the delivery is already figured in).
  6. Budget

    Budget LawnSite Senior Member
    from Pa.
    Messages: 368

    Guys how do you apply your lime? What kind of spreader?

  7. Green-Cuts

    Green-Cuts LawnSite Member
    Messages: 154

    I am doing an organic fertilizer that I can get for $6.00 s bsg that does 4000 sq feet. I was thinking of charging $15.00 for the fertilizer and then another $15 to put it on. Is that to low or about right?

  8. Tom c.

    Tom c. LawnSite Member
    Messages: 218

    I mark up a third on each bag, to cover gas et so if you can get a bunch at once and save gas. Then charge a application fee, I use an hourly labor rate when not using any power equipment. :waving:

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