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No weedcloth?

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by B_gerrits, May 15, 2008.

  1. B_gerrits

    B_gerrits LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 297

    I am trying to understand something. Mulch can describe a lot of different material some ve never seen like pine straw nobody sells that here. Mulch here is usually grond or shredded cedar. I sell a lot of guys posting not to use weedcloth so what do you guys use? If you put ground bark down without weedcloth out here it will be full of weeds in a month! I guess could use pre emergence but it only last a couple of months so you guys that dont use weedcloth what do you use please educate me.
  2. billslawn89

    billslawn89 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,365

    if you make sure no weeds are growing before you apply the mulch and install the proper thickness of mulch, you should not have a problem. you will in time get a weed here and there due to weed seeds blowing in the air. i only use weed cloth/landscape fabric when putting down stone. :dancing:
  3. JFF

    JFF LawnSite Member
    Messages: 248

    Weed cloth is a pet peeve of mine. I just despise the stuff.

    As Bill said, use a chemical strait jacket.
  4. PerfectEarth

    PerfectEarth LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,734

    I agree. I HATE landscape fabric. It's a weekend-warrior product. It doesn't really stop weeds over a couple seasons, the edges always flap up or it gets exposed, desireable plant roots get confined to growing on surfaces... the stuff is horrible. I have some good pics of what weed fabric does to plants.

    Get in there with some elbow grease and pull. Spray. Use pre-m. Be persistent
  5. jaybird24

    jaybird24 LawnSite Senior Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 623

    Only place we use it is with stone. In mulch the weeds will actually grow into the fabric and then it's real fun getting out. Pre-m, roundup and elbow grease.
  6. frogman18

    frogman18 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 25

    i use fabric to line raised beds over the gravel bottom and places that are extremely weed prone (i dont like to chemicals unless i have to).
  7. gorknoids

    gorknoids LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 316

    Weed cloth generally just ensures that the weeds that grow through it have sufficient H2O. That, and it wraps up nicely around any auger bit which encounters it.
  8. Merlin300

    Merlin300 LawnSite Member
    from Zone 5
    Messages: 156

    The mulch will eventually break down into dirt anyway. Then you will have dirt on top of weed fabric, giving the weeds some place to germinate. Kinda defeats the purpose of weed fabric.

    As the others have said, weed before laying down mulch atleast 3" thick.
  9. tamadrummer

    tamadrummer LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,102

    Weed fabric is horrible unless it is going under stone.

    Get a fert applicator to apply some snapshot granules and your newly mulched beds will not be having weeds for some months to come.

    Just for the love of all things holy, stay away from the fabric! It is useless!!
  10. Mr. Vern

    Mr. Vern LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 632

    Yeah, what these guys all said.

    Also, we advise our customers to keep a bottle of Roundup mixed up and the minute you see a weed, hit it. Do this for a season and the weeds will be reduced dramatically. The problem is when a customer allows the weeds to come up and go to seed before they deal with them. If they kill them before they go to seed, eventually there won't be any seeds to germinate - except those that get blown in of course.
    Drip irrigation also helps a lot - although it has it's own pitfalls.

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