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Nutralene, Nitroform

Discussion in 'Organic Lawn Care' started by lilmarvin4064, Mar 8, 2007.

  1. lilmarvin4064

    lilmarvin4064 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 757

    I know these (methylene ureas) are not "organic", but would you consider these a good alternative to traditional organics due to the fact that they have a long release, contain a good amount of carbon and can increase microbial populations. I see this as a more cost-effective route than using alfalfa (etc), if the end result is the same.

    Is there any reason to use something like alfalfa or cornmeal, etc, rather than chicken poo?
  2. mrkosar

    mrkosar LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ohio
    Messages: 680

    being able to advertise to potential customers that you are not putting down chicken poo

    haven't dealt with any MU so couldn't give you any advice on that topic
  3. Grassmechanic

    Grassmechanic LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,697

    They may not be organic, but I'll tell you what -it's hard to find a better source of N. as long as you have a decent amount of O.M. already in your soil.
  4. quiet

    quiet LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 720

    . . . which is why ferts with blends of MU and an organic source (biosolids, poultry manure) produce excellent results.
  5. LonniesLawns

    LonniesLawns LawnSite Senior Member
    from KS
    Messages: 317

    I bought several pallets of 21-0-21 that was 50/50 nutralene/nitroform. great product! I save it and use it sparingly just as my sprign application.

    It does a lot of good and does very little harm to the soil. To me iti s the best compliment to pure organics you can get!

  6. Both have a very low salt index...great products
  7. Naturalman

    Naturalman LawnSite Member
    Messages: 4

    Not to burst anybody's bubble or anything, but the Methylene Urea products are made with formaldehyde and urea, reacted together. This is not a 100% complete process, and there is residual traces of formaldehyde in the final product. I have opted to not use this product for this reason - I still use feed-grade urea (albeit not natural), carefully, in my liquid and granular formulations.
  8. NattyLawn

    NattyLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,643

    So properly composted poultry manure is a turn off to customers? Have you used it? Does it smell like manure?
  9. mrkosar

    mrkosar LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ohio
    Messages: 680

    i have used a few products with it. i don't think it smells bad...a little earthy, but not like when the farmers spread manure in the country, and it smells all the way in the city. the customers won't even know you are putting down composted chicken litter unless they were to ask. i was just saying it is nice to be able to assure customers you are not putting down chicken or other animal crap on their lawn. i got a feeling most would rather have you just put chemicals on it instead of poop.
  10. quiet

    quiet LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 720

    I disagree. I think most customers understand that using any processed waste product, be it poultry manure, biosolids, whatever; is an excellent way to recycle the massive amounts of wastes we generate as a society. Most believe this is far preferable than having to pay additional taxes to build new water and sewage treatment facilities, or clean up our lakes and streams . . .

    I think all fertilizer blends of any kind should contain at least some treated waste products. Just think what a better product Lesco's 24-5-11 would be with say, 50% biosolids!

    Oh, wait! Then it would be their 15-2-7, wouldn't it!

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