$ of fertilizer has me reconsidering next year

Discussion in 'Fertilizer Application' started by General Grounds, Jul 7, 2008.

  1. Mscotrid

    Mscotrid LawnSite Bronze Member
    from USA
    Messages: 1,456

    $750,000 grand in Hawaii is worth $25,000 in North Dakota, Mississppi and a few other mainland states..I watch HGTV errr I mean my wife watches and I happen to be in the room:laugh::laugh:

    I'm going organic on my yard...I spit my chew spittle on the yard and piss off my deck. The rest I leave too my Lab. Greener lawn is only a Sam Adams and Skoal away.
  2. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,125

    Don't think that same property is only $25,000. I am not talking about shacks in ghettos. These are homes in the suburbs with lots of landscaping. Tropical landscapes are very high maintenance. As in scout for mealybug every two weeks and apply micronutrients monthly. If I didn't do all of that, its time for me to learn how to flip burgers. Given the low wages and high cost of everything here, if someone can afford a $750,000 or more home, they truly have made it.
  3. heritage

    heritage LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,358

    Yes the costs will keep rising.

    I am strongly considering going from a 5 app plan to a 4 app plan for the same cost.

    I will get results close to what we are getting now, and less drive time too.

    If clients want a "5th App" they will have the option.

    Profits will remain good.

  4. mikesturf

    mikesturf LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 797

    I currently have a 6 visit program (5 ferts with spot spraying, 1 only spot spraying weeds). Great idea Heritage, you have me thinking of going to 4 ferts with spot spraying and 2 spot spraying). Most people care about the weeds where a little less green in their pockets vs their lawn may work for them.
  5. rcreech

    rcreech Sponsor
    Male, from OHIO
    Messages: 6,163

    This is technically what the stores are doing! They are selling smaller quantities for the same $$$$.

    Really a great idea, but the customer needs to be aware of it and buy into it!

    If they know they are paying the same for 4 apps as they did for 5, they may raise a little stink....but so is life.

    I can tell you that I only recommend 4 apps, and my lawns are awesome. I have always thought (in my area anyway) that anything over 4 apps wasn't needed anyway! You will be very happy with a 4 app program, especially if you can make the same $$$$$ as 5 apps.
  6. heritage

    heritage LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,358

    Hey Guys,

    My thought is that rather than Clients even "Thinking" about being upset about the rising costs of a green lawn, why not cut to 4 apps, (Here it will work) and give them similar results?

    Too the "Green" liberals will be happy that we are putting less inputs for such a result ;)

    Clients should be content with keeping their costs about the same for their "Program".

    I think this is a good direction, and will keep our "Profits" in an upward trend.

  7. DeepGreenLawn

    DeepGreenLawn LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,372

    what happens when they ask if you could do it with only 4 apps then why have you been doing 5?

    Just curious of your answer.
  8. heritage

    heritage LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,358

    My answer is simple.

    With Improved methods/materials, we can give you a beautiful lawn in 4 applications.

    1 less visit will help offset the Overhead and Materials that have both risen substantially in the last 6 Months.

    Our Clients trust our Judgment.

  9. whoopassonthebluegrass

    whoopassonthebluegrass LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,305

    Hope you're right. My clients are incredibly faithful to me, but if I told them: same cost, but 20% less service... I don't think I'd retain them all by any stretch of the imagination...
  10. DeepGreenLawn

    DeepGreenLawn LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,372

    the "improved methods/materials" should do the trick but I would leave out the added cost for materials, they just forgot the improved methods and found the real reason. I changed my program, I have a high once a year topdress and really low treatments after that because my cost dropped a few dollars per K, It is a proven product too so I know it works, have been using it paired with another product.

    I will keep some wiggle room though.

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