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Old equipment worth fixing?

Discussion in 'Mechanic and Repair' started by LawnMowerMan2003, Aug 29, 2014.

  1. LawnMowerMan2003

    LawnMowerMan2003 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 768

    So I finally picked up some old equipment that was just sitting around, but it's been sitting around for a long time and most of it probably isn't worth very much. I need to decide if it's worth paying somebody to fix or if I should try to fix it myself. Here's what I have:

    1. Echo GTR-200 trimmer. This thing only costs me $60 at the time I purchased it. I don't like curved shaft trimmers, but I could use a backup. At the last time I ran it everything was fine, but I doubt that it will start now. It's missing the handle, but I don't think that's a big deal. It's probably not worth paying to fix.

    2. Echo Blower. I can get model number next time I mow, but it's an old Echo handheld blower. When I last used it there was an issue with it running at full power; it's been a long time, but I think the choke has to be on for it to run at all. This is one is questionable if it would be worth paying somebody, but maybe I could try to fix it.

    3. John Deere 14 ST. I didn't even pick up this mower yet, since I'm already using space in my storage for all the other stuff that's not running. This one doesn't start and I noticed the self propel cable was not attached. To make things worse, one of the kids apparently took the fuel and oil caps off, so now stuff has been getting inside the engine. I might want to just junk this mower, but I did like it. I like the Kawasaki engine (if it ever runs again lol) and the handle is comfortable.

    4. Toro GTS (I'm guessing it's model number 20107 because it looks exactly like the mower in the link below) with Suzuki.


    I bought this thing off CL and it's been one of my favorite mowers, but it hasn't had a whole lot of use. The engine is loud, but it used to mow almost as fast as I could walk, and it has a blade clutch. I seem to remember some issues with the blade slipping; but then it stopped starting. I'm guessing this one is worth paying for repairs, because it's probably hard to find another one. It really doesn't look bad for how old it is.

    5. Echo Chainsaw (I can check model but I believe it's a CS-300; I'm sure it has 300 in the model). This and the Toro are probably the 2 most promising things. I bought this new a long time ago, but it hasn't really had a lot of use, considering how long I've had it. The rubber from the primer bulb is gone, but other than that it had no issues last time it was in use.

    What do you think? I know there's nothing that great there, but I could use backups, and I don't have another self-propelled mower or chainsaw. I don't have much experience with repairs, but I have cleaned out at least one mower carb, and it was easier than I thought. I'm sure the little carbs on the 2 cycles are more difficult though.
  2. iand

    iand LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 871

    with the blower try removing the exhaust and make sure the outlet isn't carboned up also check the exhaust or spark arrestor aren't filled with carbon
  3. LawnMowerMan2003

    LawnMowerMan2003 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 768

    I can try that; I doubt it's going to start right now though. I'm going to look up how to clean the carbs.
  4. LawnMowerMan2003

    LawnMowerMan2003 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 768

    I found this video of cleaning the carb on an Echo trimmer. I think I should try to clean all of them first and then see if they will run and I can go from there.

  5. easy-lift guy

    easy-lift guy LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,372

    I believe your throwing good money and time after bad results. Purchase good quality equipment in the first place. Take care of it and when it is worn out, scrap it and start over with new equipment.
    easy-lift guy
  6. dboyd351

    dboyd351 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,124

    The Echo chainsaw should be worth fixing. They aren't very powerful, but are very relaible. You can buy the parts and find videos on how to do lots of repairs on the ereplacementparts website. You should start making a habit of draining the fuel and running the equipment until the carb is dry on any equipment you don't use regularly - that will avoid many starting problems when you go to use it again. Leaving old fuel containing ethanol to sit is almost guarenteed to cause problems.
  7. jkilov

    jkilov LawnSite Bronze Member
    from MS
    Messages: 1,415

    1. Echo GTR-200 trimmer: not worth fixing

    2. Echo handheld blower: not worth fixing

    3. John Deere 14 ST: very good 21" for the day, specially if it has the 5-speed transmission. I used a 14 SE (I believe) some time ago and really liked it's bagging capability. It came from the time Deere actually made equipment rather than putting their name on rebadged junk. The Kawasaki FC150V engine on it was sweet too, very reliable engine unlike the FJ lemon we get today.

    4. Toro GTS: I'm not sure if this is the same Heavy duty Toro I had until a few years ago but I wasn't all that thrilled about that mower. Mulched OK but didn't bag well and the transmission gave constant issues. Never liked the stupid combo bail on it but what can you do. Never used it but I've heard the 2-stroke Suzuki was well liked by commercial users and some are probably willing to beat you up to get it.

    5. Echo CS-300: if this is a top-handle saw I would repair it and sell it (if you can). These should be only used by arborists and not on the ground.
  8. 123hotdog

    123hotdog LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 485

    I couldn't agree more. I have always bought my handhelds new or slightly used from a homeowner. Just last year I was fortunate enough to start buying my mowers new. New equipment does still break. It sure is allot less and its really really nice to take it to a dealer and say, "you fix it". Once I found a good dealer to service my needs, I have really been able to focus allot more on my customers.
  9. xxl

    xxl LawnSite Member
    from MO
    Messages: 240

    So it the Four cycle toro?
  10. herler

    herler LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,139

    Tell you what would be worth your while, is free up your storage by throwing all the junk that won't start away, then close the account.
    Boy, now you're raking it in at whatever they're charging you, every month you get paid by not paying them!
    Get rich, one year from now you'll have made BACK all the money you paid for all the junk that won't start.
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2014

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