Stephen go to this site and read the old posts. <a href="http://www.hallofforums.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=list&forum=lawncare">OLD FORUM</a> There are 12 pages of around 50 threads per page and a lot of good information for new guys there. Also set your search to go to all the posts on this one, not just the past 10 days and you will find a lot of good info. Do not post on the old forum, it's just for reading. I hope this helps. <br><p>----------<br><a href="http://www.townserver.com/elm/">Eric@ELM</a><br>