Organic fert and weed control on farm

Discussion in 'Organic Lawn Care' started by mx315, Dec 17, 2012.

  1. mx315

    mx315 LawnSite Senior Member
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    I have a client that just bought a 20 acre farm and wants me to treat the lawn around the main house for existing weeds and apply some fert. They have chickens, geese, dogs and a pig roaming around the yard, so I want to give them some options for organic/ pet safe products. Any recommendations for what I could use around there?
  2. RigglePLC

    RigglePLC LawnSite Fanatic
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  3. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    If there are all those critters roaming around on the lawn around the main house, I would refuse to apply any kind of chemical to the turf... chickens eat the dirt as well as the grass and weeds... there is no chance that his main yard will last very long with that type of destruction going on anyways...
  4. mx315

    mx315 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Thanks for the info. They just moved out there and are trying to "fix it up" until they tear it down in a couple of years and build a new house, so it may be pointless to do much to it. I will see if they can catch the chickens and cage them until apps are dry.
  5. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    You miss the point...

    In order for any type of herbicide to work,,, it must stay residual in the soil long enough for the plant to take it up...

    Dry,,, is fine for above ground grazing(maybe) ,,, but,,, chickens eat dirt, for the gizzard... all birds do...

    Besides,,, he will only have a barnyard,,, not a lawn...

    2 dogs can make a barnyard,,, let alone adding chickens, geese,,,and a pig... :)
  6. fl-landscapes

    fl-landscapes LawnSite Silver Member
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    There are many many herbicides that do not need to stay residual or even contact the soil whatsoever to work never mind stay residual in the soil.

  7. turf&tree

    turf&tree LawnSite Member
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    As far as fert, I use screamin green. It even has chicken poop in it lol
    It's 40% organic, never harmed an animal with it.
  8. Skipster

    Skipster LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I agree with fl-landscapes on this one. Not all herbicides are active in the soil -- glyphosate being maybe the most notable. Most POST herbicides that we use in lawn and landscape situations have some amount of foliar and root uptake, but the majority of the uptake is coming from foliar contact.

    Beyond that, most foliar applied herbicides are taken up rather quickly. Research has shown that about 90% of all the berbicide that a plant is going to take up from an application is taken up in the first 15 minutes after application.

    Soil activity is usually not a deal breaker and uptake is usually very quick (except in some situations of environmental stress).
  9. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    Even with spot spraying, the chances of the when is it safe for a chicken to eat the leaf with the spray on it? Where does the AI go after it is dry?

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