Lawrence, Glad your way works for you. My way has worked for 50 years with some adjustments for technology. You made a comment that you didn't need extra organic material because you got enough out of the clippings but you put on compost in bulk? In my niche, it is not all about cost. I look at what I do for each lawn under my care as stewardship. I am looking at not just this years results, but the next 20 years. What can I do to nurture the soil, build it up,and produce a consistantly superiour lawn. I don't mind inputs that take labor if the end result is a long term gain. You mentioned labor intensity of Milorganite, that is also part of the reason I helped the manufacturer of the spreader I use design it. It makes putting on Milorganite easy. Here is one thing I have to say about this product. On the yards that I have had for 40 plus years, of which I have more than 30, there is no more than 1/2 and inch of thatch and in most cases more like 1/4 inch. These yards have never...i repeat...never been power raked, aerated, or any other type of thatch removal. There is just no need. We have a huge frost heave here, the frost layer is 48 inches. Our season provides us the air we need in our soil. Compaction is not a problem, unless there is traffic. That is a different subject. New lawns that I take that have a thatch problem I usually aerate the first year. But over the course of a few years I can atrate the thatch to a level that is proper. I believe that by introducing Milorganite to the program does this. Milorganite provides microbes that break down the thatch. I am a firm believer. I am not trying to convert you, have a feeling you are like me. I would say this, if you have an area that will not repond to a conventional treatment, try some Milorganite. I have solved many problem areas by going with this. This is not the only fertilizer product I use, there are many others that I have made for me. Each round is different. Each year is different too. I taylor programs to each lawn and soil type. With 150 acres spread over 250 accounts, this can get tedious. But the end results are worth it. IMHO, my lawns are year in and year out, consistantly the best in my area. I have the luxury of turning down at least one yard a day, taking only yards in one section of town and usually have a link to a lawn I already do. I can grow by just keeping the people I work for happy. Right now there are 5 families that I am doing the 4th generation. My retention rate is 98%, losses are as follows 1% death, .5% won't work in my parameters, .5% moving out of the area. My applied rate is about 20 lbs/1000sq ft. My cost/k sq ft. is about 3 times for some fertilizers and about even for the more engineered types. My program evolves constantly, Milorganite is a constant that works for me. As for the bags, I bring them to a paper recycler once a year and they are happy to have them.