ornamental care

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by jajwrigh, Jul 19, 2004.

  1. jajwrigh

    jajwrigh LawnSite Bronze Member
    Male, from Martinsville, IN
    Messages: 1,405

    Since I am starting small with my turf clientele next season, I was looking for additional services to supplement income. I was thinking about an insect prevention program for shrubs and flowers as well as fertilizing. Does anyone have any suggestions or feedback for me?
  2. TSM

    TSM LawnSite Senior Member
    from MA
    Messages: 707

    lawns are, in my opinion, much easier to maintain. only a few insects to watch for. tree/shrubs a bit different. many more insects to know about, lifecycles, host plants, etc etc.

    average landscape will have several different varieties of shrubs. each one could potentially have an insect population at different times.

    Not that it is a bad idea for added income...i just feel it is much more intense and you need to be on your toes much more when caring for shrubs as compared to lawns.

    Personally, at my business, we make sure a lawn tech is very well versed in proper lawn care (grass ID, weed ID, insect ID, proper application techniques, etc) before we start to train on tree/shrub care.
    On average, in my opinion, one will need a minimum of 3 seasons in lawn care before they are ready to begin to learn shrub care.
  3. Green Dreams

    Green Dreams LawnSite Senior Member
    from Texas
    Messages: 593

    I always looked at it the opposite, TSM. I like new guys on shrubs to start. They can do alot less damage spraying i & d than herbicides in my opinion...
  4. martn

    martn LawnSite Member
    Messages: 43

    Sell them a twice a year preventive program. Use Merit.
  5. Green Dreams

    Green Dreams LawnSite Senior Member
    from Texas
    Messages: 593

    Y'all like Merit? I use it in the granular form for scale on bigger trees/shrubs. But as far as spraying it, I wasn't the happiest with the results.
  6. jajwrigh

    jajwrigh LawnSite Bronze Member
    Male, from Martinsville, IN
    Messages: 1,405

    Any other suggestions for a preventative product?
  7. Neal Wolbert

    Neal Wolbert LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 407

    If you apply Merit correctly it should do a great job. Can be injected in the fall/winter or sprayed in season. What pests are you trying to control? Merit won't control mites if they are on your list. Floramite and Hexagon work the best in the Northwest anyway. Gets the bad mites and is gentle on the good mites and other beneficials. Neal
  8. Grassmechanic

    Grassmechanic LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,697

    I offer an ornamental program. Early spring a dormant oil app is applied to all evergreens, euonymous, and flowering trees/shrubs, with a few exceptions. Later in the spring, I do a root injection of fert., mychorrizae, and Merit. Generally, nothing else is needed during the season.

    TOTALLAWN OF KY LawnSite Member
    Messages: 139

    I have always followed this advice
    "make money to grow your business"
    think about that
    I made that mistake the 1st season or so and lost money
    cocentrate on one thing till its making a lot of cash then keep growing it
    you,ll thank me in the long run
  10. philk17088

    philk17088 LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 17,386

    There is no single wonder product and very few preventative products. You are going about this with a mis- guided approach. Take the time to learn tree/shrub id, the problems that are inherant to them and the various treatment options. It would be well worth the money to take a short course on these factors before trying it out on customers.
    As far as a business stand point, I prefer t/s to lawns. I can make a lot more money out of 200 gal of tree spray than I can out of 200 gal of lawn spray. The material usage is a lot less, handling of materials a lot less. etc, etc. As far as revenue, I shoot for $195 per hour for t/s. The best I can do on lawns is about $125-$135. Now if you really want to make cash, talk to a pest control operator. Thoseguys can really wring revenue out of a small amount of chemical if they know what they are doing.payup

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