Over staffed?

GRANTSKI

LawnSite Silver Member
Location
Ct Shoreline
For sure

I wonder why guys do not mention experience they do have

I see that frequently
Even when I ask in an interview
It’s like they forgot they could do something
Admitted my “interview” for each guy was their first day of work. Imo if they even SHOW UP thats the first good sign lol. . I can read ppl very well & a day on the job is better than any phone-call or sit down interview.
 

Derwood

LawnSite Silver Member
Location
SE Wisconsin
I notice these local lawn guys hire 3 or 4 men and have only one small mower and a few hand helds. To me I think owner could save some money by getting of the mower and doing some of the hand held work. To me some lawn guys just don't make sense. Anyone see this while out working?

why not just ask him?
 

TPendagast

LawnSite Fanatic
Admitted my “interview” for each guy was their first day of work. Imo if they even SHOW UP thats the first good sign lol. . I can read ppl very well & a day on the job is better than any phone-call or sit down interview.
I can’t hire everyone that applies
That would be a disaster
As it is most people believe they should get a “turn” on the equipment
It’s not a Ferris wheel, it’s an excavator
 

mitchgo

LawnSite Gold Member
Location
Redmond, WA
Some really great comments from many different perspectives. Personally I’m confused why would you care enough about another company’s operation instead Of how to maximize yours . Their alleged mistakes is how your business can prosper
 

TPendagast

LawnSite Fanatic
Some really great comments from many different perspectives. Personally I’m confused why would you care enough about another company’s operation instead Of how to maximize yours . Their alleged mistakes is how your business can prosper
Lots of people see something and copy it
If it works
They may wonder what or how it works if they see it but don’t understand it

I’d like to see statistics on OJT, extra guy and see if there’s any fiscal benefit to it
Rather than expecting your best guy to train newbies
Does he get tired of that and quit himself?

I’d love to have a group discussion about that
Live at GIE and include some employees
Like an open forum over beers and pretzels
Open mike night?
Anyone can weigh in with opinions or experiences

I bet there’s a lot of information to be had on such a discussion
Information we all need
Because we all need to be doing something different
Somehow
 

Honda250xtitan

LawnSite Member
Location
Phoenix
Maybe a little off topic but not really

did you ever notice how everyone is looking for “experience”?

must have experience
How do you get it , if everyone requires it?

I would think that your extra guy is getting trained.
I mean it’s really hard to afford that
But in a perfect world , that’s how that would happen.

apprentices learn a trade
Journeymen do the bulk of the work
Masters supervise and train

but now your lawn mowing costs $80

customers pull this too
“Oh you sent untrained people to my property”
Really so is there a school for this?
Lawn university??
the reality is more often than not , 50% of the people (or more with larger crews) are technically untrained on any crew.

the customer wants only trained professionals for a $35 cut
The employer wants experience only for $12 an hour
And the employee wants top pay and doesn’t even have a drivers license nevermind experience, just for getting off the couch!

I have often thought of running some kind of classes/school for this.
But who would pay for it?
would employers pay a fee for training their employees?
Would employees pay a fee to get trained?

I often thought the CLT would handle this but it’s always been such a poorly run/managed program
You pretty much need to be a journeyman to pass the course to begin with
By then, why do you really even need it?

so …. Yes I have seen these “large crewS”
And ive always assumed they have contained trainees

I just wonder how they math it out to make money with an unproductive man or two?

does it work out better than sending one main guy and a newb?
I think that’s a cool idea.
im considering starting a mobile detailing company. We would immediately scale it so we wouldn’t do any of the actual labor. Part of the start up fee would be sending the guys to California to train with the owner of shine supply. He runs classes specifically for guys starting out on their own.
Point being: There’s a market for it, finding it and showing the value in it is the hard part.
 

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