Had a weekend with cool weather so decided to overseed my front yard which is 10,850 according too. http://www.findlotsize.com/ which I used to figure out how much seed to put down, I applied at 4lbs per thousand ft. I started by mowing my grass with my Lazer Z to 3 1/2 inches which didn't do much then I dropped it to 2 inches, I ended up with a ton of grass so I did a bunch of racking, I then cut it 2 more times to try and cut up the clippings the best I could and get a nice clean cut across the entire lawn. I applied the Lesco starter pictured below, I rented a overseeder from home depot which had motor trouble (guy didn't run for me in morning) so I went to run it and that didn't happen. So I returned it and went to another rental place and got a working model. Here is where the first error occurred, I made the first pace with the Clausen and it was pulling up a ton of thatch, I knew this wasn't going to work out well as I had dead grass everywhere, I knew I wouldn't be able to spread my seed with dead grass everywhere and I sure as heck wasn't going to rake the yard by hand again or at least large portions of it. Since my lazer Z doesn't have a bagger I called a friend who has a trailer picked it up called my Dad and went and got his Craftsmen tractor with bagger which worked extremely well so he went over my whole lawn twice and sucked up all the thatch I pulled up and clippings. I ended up with nice short grass after he was done. Now I was finally ready for the Clausen, I made 2 passes going in opposite directions, the machine worked well and it went fairly quick I didn't time myself but I would estimate I did the lawn twice in less than 1 1/2 or 45 per direction for not being self propelled it goes good and can get away from you. I used my Prizelawn BF-1 spreader to apply the seed, I put in about 20 pounds and did the whole lawn, put in about 20 pounds and walked in the opposite direction I hit a couple bare spots extra hard Hindsight being 20/20 I should have picked up my dad's tractor with bagger first and just bagged from the get go and or rented a power rake to begin with but the first couple passes on a high setting pretty much did the same thing, I probably ended up sucking up some of my starter as well did see plenty of it while putting down seed, w I should have put down either after seeding or after we cleaned the lawn of thatch and clippings. As a homeowner you live and learn I guess but I saved myself a bunch of money either way as my lawn is pretty big. My home doesn't have irrigation so the way I'm watering is sort of a PIA but I'm making due by moving sprinklers, I picked up the largest diameter ones I could find I'll just be moving them around, I am going to buy a couple more and another set of hoses so I don't have to move them as much, it's a lot of grass to water. I have two spigots on opposite ends of the house so that helps. I did rain last night just as it got dark, so that helped a bunch along with the watering it was a nice long light drizzle so on top of my first watering it should have been perfect. The seed I used I really like, I did a small area by a front bed I redid this spring, I planted 2 weeks ago and in the pic you can see how well it came in, I hope it does just as well on the lawn, I used the same starter too. Just some pics of what I used and what it looks like after I cut it, I will post results as they happen.