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part-timers: non commercial ztr?

Discussion in 'Starting a Lawn Care Business' started by Detroitdan, Apr 12, 2008.

  1. Detroitdan

    Detroitdan LawnSite Member
    Messages: 75

    Anybody using them?

    When I first started mowing everyone told me stay away from non-commercial stuff, the Home Cheepo machines are junk, specifically the blade speed has to be lower to comply with the Consumer Protection Act. So I bought a used commercial WB and it's great but getting old and I'd like something to sit on for bigger jobs.

    So my question is, I've looked at the Cheepo and Lowes stuff, and it's not anything I would consider buying. But I keep finding deals on residential type ztrs that are sold by the dealer and not big box stores. I'm told the dealer models are much better than the ones sold through the box stores. Having trouble finding the info relating to blade speed specs. Does anybody use quasi-residential machines? I know commercial is better by far, but I don't have $10,000 to spend, and I only mow part-time. I feel like if I can get a faster machine that will cut grass 2 days a week I'll be okay.

    Specifically I've been seeing used Cub Cadets, 22 hp 50 inch cut. Know anything about them? I'd be interested in hearing opinions from people who've used them.
  2. Detroitdan

    Detroitdan LawnSite Member
    Messages: 75

    For example, I'm comparing a 48 inch Bobcat with a zillion hours and beat to death, for twice what I can buy a gently used low hour 50 inch Cub Cadet for. I think the Bobcat probably wouldn't last the year without needing a motor. The Cub has a nearly new Kawasaki, so it should last a little while anyway. I'm mostly concerned about how it would cut.

    J.A.G LAWNCARE LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 931

    You could get a nice cub cadet , but the only one that I would get is the TANK, I have one with 800 hours no problems .new 48 would be around 6200 good luck
  4. N.H.BOY

    N.H.BOY LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,603

    Dan like I said in your other post, you might be surprised at what that cub cadet dealer down from you on rt. 4 can do for you. They might have those 48 ztr their, but not sure, they had a W/B when I was there looking at those sweeeeeet 3200 tractors. But I would go with that cub you mention and not that bobcat.

    VT MOWER LawnSite Member
    from Vermont
    Messages: 38

    NH Boy has a Cub Cadet tank and loves it. Not sure of what the specs are on it. I am in the same boat that you're in and have looked at Home Depot too.

    What I have been told is look at your local dealers on THEIR MODELS and pricing. Get a feel for their service dept, and how soon can they get a part for you if they don't have it in stock. Yeah, you can get a good mower somewhere cheap, but it won't help if you have to look at it waiting for service or parts.

    What is your budget at? Here is some prices on mowers that I have found.

    JD Estate Series Z510 22hp - 48" deck $6,200
    Z520 25hp - 54" deck $6,800 (both with 7-iron deck)

    Exmark Lazer CT 18hp - 48" deck $6,119
    21hp - 52" deck $6,629
    23hp - 60" deck $7,149

    Ferris is500z 24hp - 44" deck $4,995
    26hp - 52" deck $5,400

    is1500z 21hp - 48" deck $6,000

    Hope this helps somewhat
  6. Detroitdan

    Detroitdan LawnSite Member
    Messages: 75

  7. eXme

    eXme LawnSite Member
    Messages: 22

    My local Nashville dealer does so much business that he always has several Lazers and one or two Turf Tracers he sells used this time of year. I am picking up a Lazer 60" w/ NEW 25hp Kohler on Friday for $3500. Wheel motors have been replaced within last 3 years and hydro last year. Now granted it looks OLD:confused: but I am all about function anyway. Just thought you might find similar luck in your area if you check around.
  8. ATVracer

    ATVracer LawnSite Senior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 346

    I have the 50" Cub Cadet RTZ. It has been a great mower for me, the only problem I have had is the deck support cables have broke twice. Once when I clipped a tree and the other going through a giant hole in a yard. It only took 15 minutes and $7 to fix. I have 300+ hours on mine and I wouldn't hesistate to buy another if I had the need.

    The mowers at box stores and dealers are the same. I bought mine at a dealer.
  9. Chris "Greenville"

    Chris "Greenville" LawnSite Member
    Messages: 70

    Atvracer, I tend to agree with you. I am in my second year part-time. I use the Cub cadet clone Troybilt rzt 50 with a 22 hp Kohler. I haven't had any problems plowing through the thick spring grass. Honestly another advantage I think I have is weight. With so much rain in my area, the ground is saturated. One of my customers said that the last guy left ruts across his yard. After the first cut of the year he was extremely happy with my cut and lack of ruts. Also with the lower overhead cost I'm able to bid my jobs to the current economic market. With so many people opting to mow their own lawns this year I feel lucky to have picked up so many new customers and keep the blades turning. Thanks!
  10. tacoma200

    tacoma200 LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,426

    ZTR payments average about $200 or so. It would take very few lawns to make the payment. You can't make money or be productive if you don't have the equipment. There are some used deals out there that would be better than consumer equipment.

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